'Gee, why do you get two threads that aren't at autosage?';

'>>61395356
is this where I sign up to die for israel?';

'Fight to preserve and protect the Constitution of the United States of America and our Constitutional Republic in the area you choose to live. Do what you can to strengthen your family and local community.
Learn long range shooting skills. A quality bolt action rifle costs less than $1,000. Quality optics that will allow you to place accurate fire on targets over 500 yards away cost less than $800.
Ammunition and firearms are proving to be as good an inflation hedge as anything else. In addition to your long distance firearm, purchase a quality AR or AK pattern rifle and a quality pistol. Take care of your firearms like the family heirlooms they will become Purchase at least 1,000 rounds of ammunition for each rifle and 500 rounds for your pistol.
TiborasaurusRex has an extensive library on his YouTube channel that will help any student of long range shooting learn the craft. You will do more to preserve and protect our Constitutional Republic by being a strong part of your local community than by joining the US military. The fight to preserve and protect our Constitutional Republic is at home.';

'>>61395821
>yap yap yap
Just say you’re a pussy who didn’t make it past because you take depression pills. You’re actively making me less patriotic with each post you shit out';

'>>61395821
This is the military thread not the FBI thread glowie. Back to Appalachia.';

'>>61395682
If you are interested in serving in the IDF, there are a number of options available, depending on your age, physical condition and status.

Contact the IDF Enlistment Center’s Coordinator for New Immigrants: [email protected]';

'>they removed the leg tuck
I'm still mad, I could max it ezpz.';

'>>61396200
Just say "it was one leg tuck" every time you gotta get down and do the plank. 9 times out of 10 the grader will laugh and joke with you and the time will seem to go a little faster.';

'>>61395356
I went to my first weekend duty drill today. Was pretty comfy and everyone there was pretty nice and affable. We spent the day PMCSing Strykers.';

'>>61396508
>drill weekend
Yeah, most of the time you do nothing and just spend hours on your phone.';

'>>61396508
waking up at 6:00 A.M. to stand around 90% of the time makes me want to combust myself';

'Hey bros, growing up I always wanted to be in the Air Force, and the only thing I've ever been really good at is computers. The natural thing to do would be to join the Air Force, right? However, I have been a code monkey for the last few years (since I left HS) and I really don't like it (even though I'm good at it). I sorta want to try working a job not at a desk. I've always had an autistic obsession with guns, special operations, etc so I kinda want to join the Army instead. I'm in decent shape and can train to get better.
Do you think it would be a good idea to join the Army over the Air Force, even for a few years, just to do some cool shit? Or would I be wasting my time and I should just go AF? Can I switch later? Should I go National Guard first and switch to active duty to see how it is?';

'>>61397024
Do you want to do 4 years, get out, get a degree with the GI bill, and go do civilian things? Sure, go have an adventure in the Army and realize halfway through it's not all that it's cracked up to be. If you want to do it as a career, go AF/SF and enjoy a much higher quality of life while you do your 20. There's also the Army cyber positions where you can get a middleground, but you're still stuck with Army bullshit if you're sticking around for 20 years.';

'>>61397024
Go Army 35N, spend a couple years at your unit learning the ropes, then apply to [redacted] once you're an E-4(P) or above. Knowing your way around computers really well will pay dividends as a SIGINT dude and if you get an NSA site as a first duty station (roughly 60-40 odds) you'll hit the ground running since those skills will be very useful. If you're decently fit, apply for schools and whatever once you get to your unit, starting with Ranger School because leaders cream their pants at the sight of an enlisted guy with a tab and it'll open doors for you down the line.
There's coolguy stuff out there where you'll be doing some quieter, nerdier, more technical stuff but in a very unconventional and interesting way, compared to the direct action guys. You won't be kicking in doors or shooting people in the face, but you'll do some stuff that literally no one else on Earth does.';

'>>61397069
I dunno, I'm pretty evenly split. From what I've gathered the army sucks, but it also is the best place to do SOF stuff and I want to do that sort of thing before I die. So if I go Army it would only be for 4 years.
Unless it's not worth it even for that, in which case I'll go AF/SF like you said. But I don't want to die and tell my kids I sat in an office my entire life.';

'>>61397100
That sounds pretty neat. Sounds like exactly what I'm looking for. Is there any way to do that kind of thing in the Air/Space Force?';

'>>61397119
The AF has a roughly equivalent set of shreds but I have no idea what their coolguy [redacted] scene is like. Check out the air force >plebbit and search for "green door," might find someone talking about it.';

'Why are there so many trannies running the show?';

'>>61397119
1N4A
1N2C
1N2X1';

'>>61395682
Probably not dying for them, but you're certainly "fighting" for them';

'>>61395943
>t. Glownigger';

'>>61398704
>t. Glownigger';

'>>61398762
>>61398704
Relax. The only federal agents who use this board post on /hgg/.
t. knower';

'I hate homework.';

'>>61399951
You could've just let the thread die. Dumb glownigger.';

'>>61401288
You could always hide the thread if you don't like it, but instead you come here to bitch.';

'>>61401312
You could always stop making these dead threads but instead (You) deflect and act like glowniggers aren't controlling this board.';

'>>61397024
Natural thing is to join navy Crypto or Intel so you actually do things because Microsoft excel. Navy is the only branch that’s consistently on deployment. You also get to pick your job before bootcamp even starts so you’re confirmed a spot. Just don’t fail the school or else you’ll have a lovely time boat painting for 4 years';

'>Air/Space Force comm/cyber veteran
>Only plans for the day (besides cleaning my apartment) just got cancelled
>Currently on light dose of Adderall
Ask me anything!';

'>>61401721
>people asking about joining the military on a weapons board?
>nah no way it has to be the CIA doing it
Fuck off back to /pol/';

'If theres a war with Iran Ive already decided Im joining the Marine Corps
>inb4 muh Army
>inb4 muh benefits
What do I have to do to get from couch to camp as fast as possible?';

'>>61402109
walk into a marine corp recruiter office';

'>>61402125
Can they send me in a day/2 days with a 4-year 0311 contract?';

'>>61402166
No, minimum a month to get into the marines. Longer if you don’t clear MEPS';

'>>61402212
>Iran (not an Iran backed group) just launched a drone attack against Israel
>6,000,000 expected to die in anudda Shoah as Im typing this
I might have to make good on what I said. What do I need to pass MEPS? Just run 2 miles? Ive got a genetic condition but it shouldnt affect me till I'm about 40.';

'>>61402039
Nobody is asking to join. Thus the reason these generals are always on life support. Nice deflecting though. This board is glowie central, only approved narratives allowed here.';

'>>61402109
>If theres a war with Iran
Genuinely, why do you care?';

'>>61402273
No MEPS is just a medical evaluation. They get your medical records, take an HIV blood test, hearing and sight test, height weight, etc. Essentially, it is an intrusive physical. That generic condition may require a waiver, or may disqualify you. Is this a diagnosed thing.';

'>>61402374
>take an HIV blood test
Why do they still do this when they allow you to stay in if you get HIV after joining? Seems pointless.';

'>>61402329
Whatever you say, buddy. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.';

'>>61402452
Your concession is accepted. Glownigger.';

'>>61402389
Don’t ask me, I just went through MEPs and that’s what they took from me. It is probably because the military doesn’t want to pay for your HIV healthcare the entire time you’re in service.';

'>>61402374
>Is this a diagnosed thing.
It is but I had to get a special doctor to do it, I dont think its something a ball-toucher would catch.
Im just barely overweight as well.';

'>>61402482
But they'll pay for your mental illness and allow sex changes lmao';

'>>61402511
Ehhhh I don’t know man. That condition could either set you back an extra month or year depending on what it is. I’d lose some weight too since the marines are pretty physically demanding. I’d talk to your recruiter.';

'>>61402389
because when you have HIV they make you medically ineligible for reenlistment and you process out. Fed-Reserve has had one or two soldiers keep reupping but you are also on the "Do not deploy" list as well.';

'>>61402620
What if I just dont tell them about it?
Also yeah, Im losing weight. Its about 10-20 extra.';

'im afraid ill be late... im finishing uni this summer and thinking of joining military just after that, fuck i dont want to miss stuff';

'>>61403011
Im currently in my freshman year and will be dropping out the minute I hear theyre deploying';

'I have heard that american soldiers practice less than 1 time a month in the range and that field training takes less than 1/5 of a typical year of service. Is this true?';

'>>61403053
That depends entirely on what your job is and what unit you're in.
National guard supply specialist? Intel weenie at an INSCOM site? You might never touch a rifle again after basic training. Grunt at the 82nd? You might get sick of going to the range all the time.';

'>>61403011
Go to the coast guard and ask for OCS';

'>>61401981
Are there any Space Force jobs/duties not performed at a desk?';

'>>61403821
Security forces probably. I’ve actually never looked at the space force website';

'>>61401981
What should I say to the the video interview board?';

'>>61403821
Any job tends to have obscure positions that take you away from the usual working environment (i.e. a desk), but for the most part I would say RF trans (formerly 3D1X3), or whatever they're calling that shit now (I think it's 5C0X1R now), is the most likely to go do stuff outside. It's currently a shred of cyber operations as a whole, which in my opinion is retarded, but hey I don't make the decisions.
In terms of units, I think Space Delta 3 has the most not-at-desk assignments, pic related.

>>61403920
I have no idea, I don't even know what that is. Is that for OTS or something? I was just enlisted.';

'>>61395356
Good luck /meg/ bros fighting and dying for Israel. Shout out to my girlfriends husband in 4th ID.';

'>>61403959
>I have no idea, I don't even know what that is. Is that for OTS or something? I was just enlisted.
Apparently you have to pass a video interview to even enlist';

'>>61404043
Wow that's crazy, I just looked it up. The Space Force needs all the sperglords that would fail an interview. Maybe they're secretly filtering out anyone who looks like a normie.
What are the questions like?';

'>>61404114
>What are the questions like?
Not sure';

'6th may im going to have my green card lottery results, in the remote case i win i want to enlist in the muhreens, or in the army bc i like the 10th mountain division, but my chances of winning are like 1 in 200';

'>>61403959
>It's currently a shred of cyber operations as a whole, which in my opinion is retarded
It is incredibly retarded. We all know it is xcomm, but they still send them to cyber fundamentals to learn things that they'll never use, and they don't get sec+.
The DAF is a total shit show. I hope this war kicks off so all the retards in upper leadership get booted so things can be fixed.';

'>>61401981
Does Intel have an actual job to do? Or are they bored and missionless like Cyber supposedly is?
Also what's the best Intel shred?';

'how to get out of a war that i disagree with?
I joined to defend Taiwan / the U.S. and then the sand chimp-outs started again';

'>>61404654
>I joined to defend Taiwan
You joined to do whatever they tell you to do retard';

'>>61404654
Doesn't matter what you joined to do, you're gonna spend your contract going to NTC and doing layouts.';

'>>61405288
Yeah and there are lines that I won't cross and would rather get BCD'd over because I'm not a soulless NPC, so eat shit faggot.
I thought conscientious objection was an option but apparently that's only if I disagree with all war.';

'>>61405355
You joined because of popular thing, and now that thing isnt popular anymore you have a problem. Youre an NPC by definition. Youre an idiot too because apparently you didnt think to do the Google search about whether you have to follow orders in the just following orders job.';

'>>61404626
I only worked with two intel units in the Space Force (and one was for like two days) so I'm generalizing here, but yeah they have a job to do. They were doing intel reports and monitoring stuff for a non-intel operation, it was pretty cool, nothing amazing. I didn't get to see Delta 18 or the NRO stuff but it probably gets spooky af.

Intel shreds by coolness:
>5I4X1B Cryptologic (formerly Fusion) Analyst
>5I2X1X SIGINT (this has two shreds but I don't know the difference between them) Analyst
>5I8X1 Targeting Analyst
>5I4X1A Cyber Intelligence Analyst
>5I1X1 GEOINT Analyst
>5I0X1 All Source Analyst
You can't go wrong with any of them though (unless you get unlucky with your assignment), they can all do cool stuff.

Intel shreds by civilian sector money-making potential:
>5I4X1A Cyber Intelligence Analyst
>power gap
>5I2X1X SIGINT Analyst
>power gap
>5I4X1B Cryptologic Analyst
>5I0X1 All Source Analyst
>5I1X1 GEOINT Analyst
>5I8X1 Targeting Analyst

Also my knowledge on AFSCs/shreds is a year out of date, if anyone could post the April 2024 AFECD (I'm pretty sure it's unclassified, correct me if I'm wrong), I would appreciate it.';

'>>61395356
Is joining the Military while depressed dumb';

'>>61405519
>didnt think to do the Google search about whether you have to follow orders in the just following orders job.
You literally don't as long as you oppose all war for religious reasons and then you get discharged. You are a 60iq chimp who refuses to answer my question but keeps replying to me for some reason.';

'>>61405587
No. It's retarded.';

'>>61403053
Read the munitions handlers' METL supply requirements if you really want to know.
tl;dr no, it's not true; but that won't stop you from believing it because neverserveds have a psychological need to believe military decay in peacetime is worse than it is.';

'>>61405574
I was writing about that picture, deleted my sentence, and forgot to delete the picture. Oh well, it fits the context.';

'>>61405355
You're an NPC';

'>>61406077
>t. "I killed those European children because Uncle Sam told me to!"';

'>>61406146
You're defending bugmen, of all things. You're epitome of NPC lol';

'>>61403821
If you dont want to be at a desk why even join space force?';

'>>61406171
>"just following orders" when it comes to defending israel
>seething about defending taiwanese against impending invaders who want the microchip industry that we started there
Gee, I wonder who could've possibly typed this post!';

'>>61406244
I didnt say fuck all about Israel, projecting chink. I don't care about China or anything in the middle east. What a retarded NPC you are lol';

'>>61406319
Are you autistic? You can't actually be this verbally retarded';

'>>61406338
Ching chong ching chang to you too. Nobody gives a fuck about Taiwan by the way.';

'>>61406355
I'd probably be in the "hurr durr idc not my country" camp if I was also an incel who hadn't tasted Taiwanese pussy.
But no. That shit made me read their history. And China can suck my balls next';

'>>61406381
>bragging about having Chinese strange
Nobody cares about your Chink lands. Go fight your own war bug boy.';

'>>61406381
>when you're so pussy whipped you start worshipping her lands
That's next level pathetic lmao';

'>>61406416
>>61406409
>nooooo you can't fight on behalf of a country that i personally don't care about
The derailing and non-answers in military forums is astonishing';

'>>61406488
Nobody cares about ching chang land. Seethe more
>The derailing and non-answers in military forums
Newfag';

'>>61406381
It's not a huge deal Formosa us';

'>>61406552
CARLOS!';

'>>61406355
I care :)';

'>>61405587
The only good thing would be if you want to get even more depressed and get some disability after getting discharged possibly getting some disability. Other than that, horrible idea.';

'>>61405587
Don't militaryfags kill themselves at higher rates? Do it.';

'>Go through USAF BMT
>MTIs and Chain of command look miserable as fuck
>Realize how fucking stupid the military is and how I was conned into thinking this was going to be setting me up for success
>Was most likely going to end up being miserable like my MTIs/Chain of command at some point
>Go to MTI and tell him I wanna go home cause this just isn't working out the way I expected and I see the writing on the wall for this one (tried using religion as an excuse)
>Can't you signed a contract eat shit
>lolok pic related is my face when
>Had a plan just incase I wanted out
>Ask to go to REID for no particular reason
>Tell them I need medicine for an issue I had
>Did you tell MEPS about this?
>Nope lol
>One moment pls
>See doctor explain to him just to raise it up to our superiors just incase this makes me disqualified because I'd rather be kicked out now rather then later
>Dude looks at me knowing what I'm trying to do and I look back at him laughing my ass off in my head
>End up graduating earning the title of "air men" and immediately sent to medhold after to get processed home
>Do you wanna fight your case anon? (It wont matter but we will give you the illusion we care)
>Lmao fuck no
>Go back home and tell everyone about my time in the USAF and they thank me for my "service"
>Guys I trained with fucking hate it and plan on leaving after the contract is up
>People I meet from other branches are brainwashed and insane
phew dodged a bullet there boys. Fuck you /meg/ I can't believe I actually listened to your bullshit. Worst part is I see the signs of indoctrination in myself every day more and more.';

'>>61408865
>hurr durr im gonna quit the easiest branch based on my experiences in basic training
Congrats on being a typical braindead 18 year old, I guess.';

'>>61408929
I was in my late 20s. Sorry I saw through the ruse Recrooter.';

'>>61408865
Are you really so weak-willed that usaf bmt was enough to manipulate your core personality traits?';

'>>61409485
>Are you really so weak-willed that usaf bmt was enough to manipulate your core personality traits?
It was seeing how they managed to even get a *fraction* of it at all. Even 1 inch is a gross encroachment on me and that's fucking disgusting.';

'>>61408865
>>61409513
What kind of indoctrination?
I had some leftover muscle memory like squaring corners and knife-handing when pointing at things but I didn't feel any brainwashing.

Most recruits there were already above-average in terms of patriotism so they didn't have to try that hard to sell the mission.';

'>>61395356
Posting this again because I have one year until I have to take the ASVAB again.

Can I get some mos recommendations?
ASVAB 99
AGE 30
Too smart of 11 series (otherwise I wouldn't be here)
Too dumb for 35 series (otherwise I wouldn't be here). Can't fill out reference sheet for intel job because too stupid.
>What do you want to do?
Stop living with my parents and have the government give me a job.
>Goals outside service
Stop being who I am now and have preference and training for civilian jobs beyond retail and moving boxes. And BAH to buy a house.
I can reup as intel later (if I get my shit together) right?';

'I wanna be a rocket mechanic.
How do I into that?';

'>>61409807
*should specify I mean spacecraft/ICBMs, not the killing kind';

'>>61409513
I'm curious about what this anon is asking as well>>61409645
Nearly everyone I know flushed all the moto shit immediately after basic/boot, including guys in stereotypically military jobs like infantry. I'm thinking that probably has to do with how people move on to learning their jobs after boot, so you get out of the boot mindset rather quickly. You however are stuck there since that is where your journey ended, so it'll take a lot of introspective work on your part to fix your brain.';

'>>61409704
>Too smart of 11 series (otherwise I wouldn't be here)
Facts not in evidence
>>61409704
>Too dumb for 35 series (otherwise I wouldn't be here). Can't fill out reference sheet for intel job because too stupid.
Figure it out and do it anyway';

'>>61409815
>ICBMs, not the killing kind
anon, what?';

'>>61409894
Oh, uh... you know what I mean
If it's meant to kill a squad or destroy a tank, I don't care.
If it goes into space, then I care.';

'>>61408865
>>61408963
Imagine being late 20's and so short sighted. BMT is obviously not a representation of how operational would be. The fact you're too stupid to see that speaks more for you. All that being said, military still sucks, it's just exponentially less sucky than BMT. If you were actually as clever as you think, you'd have figured out a way to get some nice bennies on your way out.';

'>>61409862
Off the top of my head
>Still feel weird adjusting to civilian life and norms
>Having a hard time letting go of stupid habits like standing at parade rest when I'm waiting in line or having a conversation with someone
lesser degree
>still calling people sir/ma'am which in itself isn't that big of a deal but still annoying

>>61410078
Never said it was. I said my chain of my command looked miserable. USAF BMT is piss easy so I don't know why you keep bringing it up as if that was the main reason why I dipped. I didn't want to be ordered around by morons and thrown into jail just because I refused an obviously stupid order. And I was struggling to find a good reason to stick around because there was none.
>muh gibs
The benefits are a fucking joke that they trick retarded teens with. Little do they know just how crappy they really are. The real benefits are Tech school assuming you pick up a job actually worth while in civvie life. I still get calls from the VA pretending that they give a shit about me which is pretty funny and making sure I'm not trying to kill myself.';

'>>61410260
>I don't know why you keep bringing it up as if that was the main reason why I dipped
Because it is. Your only experience is BMT, the things you bitch about, like the "indoctrination" are things you'd only pick up in BMT. Your miserable looking chain of command is miserable because it's BMT. You aren't complaining about actually shitty things in the military that's not exclusive to BMT. The military does suck, and I don't think anyone with actual potential should join, but you are only complaining about the BMT aspect of it, which is laughable.';

'>>61410260
I've gotta agree with this anon >>61410328.
Being in the air force is literally just being a civilian in uniform; it is more chill of a workplace that you'll likely ever experience on the civilian side since you can oftentimes disappear from work with zero consequences.
You dipped because you got scared by bmt, an environment that is nothing like the operational air force. That makes you seem like you're even too soft for what most would consider the easiest job in the country, and that you'll have a tough time in the real world.
Maybe take advantage of the VA and get some therapy as you transition to the civ world. I'm legit worried about someone like you who could was apparently so fragile that bmt was enough for you to call it quits.';

'>>61404654
You're not in the armed forces let alone in a war you retarded porch primate.

Anyone actually in service knows all the ways to get shitcanned. They would not have to ask a Tierra del Fuegian glans branding board.';

'>>61395943
>implying';

'>>61405587
Yes. Losers like you cannot hang and that's one reason I'm less impressed by suicides than neverserveds. The military cannot fix stupid. KYS now and end the pain because depression never gets better.';

'>>61410400
I stand corrected. Not even glowies are soft or sensitive enough to fail out of BMT he must be a schizo.';

'>>61409807
Work for SpaceX. They are not the armed forces.';

'>>61410328
>Chain of command gets order and tells us to do it
>Finish
>Actually they said to do it like this instead
>Undo it and do it again they way they asked
>Actually they said to forget it entirely
>get rid of it entirely after 3 hours
And no this wasn't "building le heckin character" scripted shit this was 100% incompetence to the enth degree. You expect me to trust them making big choices for me when they can't even figure out the small things? Don't even get me started on how the order gets screwed up entirely because some retard couldn't remember what the other person said. You have said in your previous post multiple times that you basically agree with me that the military is retarded but at the same time try to argue it was a me issue and I quit for the "wrong" reasons.

Do I really need to mention the plethora of other retarded shit like how women can basically cry rape at the drop of a hat and have you dishonorably discharged and others who were there at a drop of a hat?? Get a fucking hold of yourself. The training was training and I saw how fuck stupid the entire thing was going to be for the next 4 years and I was right (and you are basically saying I was just for the wrong reasons)

>>61410377
>Join job
>Hm this job sucks
>Leave
Shrimple as that.';

'>>61410377
>Being in the air force is literally just being a civilian in uniform; it is more chill of a workplace that you'll likely ever experience on the civilian side since you can oftentimes disappear from work with zero consequences.

This and that's the point for adults who join for a career and recession-proof retirement early in life. All the military shit most of /k/ vomits retardation about is not most of any career. The flexible schedule and one month paid leave a year is glorious. Only working ten years for every eleven served is comfy math.

Work 20, get "fuck you" money for life with even more important medical bennies plus the rest or hang for the pay bumps and fully retire young like so many self-included do. Money makes freedom usable and the goal of work is eventual freedom from having to work with enough years remaining to enjoy life.

I never met a former Coastie in the AF but we had many switch from being the Army, Marines and Navy after they got wise to what really matters in life. Early career is for PCS to Europe or PACAF or various tiny tenant units no one outside them thinks about round the world. Mid career is for positioning for late career including hunting property near a base whose location suits you. Later career is to prep for retirement and stack money reserves atop the TSP you should nowadays have from the start.

Then you drive out the gate amidst celestial choirs, decompress a few months and to the next thing or if want roll into contracting doing what you're great at with less hassle. Play this wisely and you never feel a recession. Meanwhile your HS peers (with the usual exceptions proving the rule) grind until Social Security or death, their world financially fragile and infinitely vulnerable. Not your problem since you can shoot and hunt on your land, piss off the porch or whatever far from the madding crowd. That's reality, not faggot memes of dumbshit mentally defective teentards.';

'>>61410454
>You expect me to trust them making big choices for me when they can't even figure out the small things?
What "big choices" could you possibly be referring to? How much influence do you actually think they have over your day to day work life on the operational side?
>it was a me issue and I quit for the "wrong" reasons
Correct. With how retarded you sound, I actually think you would have been perfect for the military.
>how women can basically cry rape at the drop of a hat and have you dishonorably discharged
You would know nothing about this since interactions with females are basically nonexistent in BMT, so you're now bitching about things you've never even encountered and making excuses for why the military is bad.

>Join job
>Hm this job sucks
>Leave
You never even got to your job lmao';

'>>61410542
>The flexible schedule and one month paid leave a year is glorious
It always makes me laugh how your careerist think this is such a good perk when most civilian jobs give you way more flexibility and time off.';

'>>61410588
> most civilian jobs give you way more flexibility and time off.
>-t. pampered 'man' who has never worked a low end labor job in his life
My first bluecollar job gave 3 days off: Christmas, Thanksgiving, and New Years.';

'>>61410606
Should have said civilian career.
>hur dur, i slave myself out more than you so that makes me more of a man
There's a reason idiots like you do so well in the military';

'>>61410454
>Shrimple as that.
I agree. I'm just arguing that someone who thinks bmt is the worst thing ever likely led an extremely sheltered existence and would benefit from professional help before they join the capitalist hellscape.
>>61410588
The only thing more comfy than mil life is a high paying remote job, and you need things like education and skills to get there.';

'>>61409866
>Facts not in evidence
I don't think you know what that means';

'>>61410620
>The only thing more comfy than mil life is a high paying remote job, and you need things like education and skills to get there.
Your world view is unbelievable narrow...but you do sound like the stereotypical chair force careerist, so understandable.';

'>>61410575
>>What "big choices" could you possibly be referring to?
You'd belong to the military so I'll let you figure that one out on yourself.
>>You would know nothing about this since interactions with females are basically nonexistent in BMT, so you're now bitching about things you've never even encountered and making excuses for why the military is bad.
Wrong. In Medhold there was 3 people waiting for months for a retarded sexual assault claims made by some of the cunts in BMT. Flights were also m/f during my cycle.

>>You never even got to your job lmao
Yea I'm sure I would have hated it less once I have a tranny giving me "lawful" orders

>>61410620
>Watch how people in the military are exceptional retarded
>Realize thats the majority of people in the military
>Quit
Make sense?';

'>>61410634
>You'd belong to the military so I'll let you figure that one out on yourself
So you have nothing, gotcha
>Yea I'm sure I would have hated it less once I have a tranny giving me "lawful" orders
You are complaining about hypotheticals that would likely never come to pass. You were weak and are trying to justify your decision with bullshit that doesn't apply to 95% of people who serve in the Air Force. I understand the mentality, but you really would have been perfect for the military, and that's the amusing part about all your bitching and moaning.';

'>>61410630
So please do expand my world view.
Also, if you weren't aware, I'm using "comfy" in the meme sense of the word, to refer to general neetdom.';

'>>61410650
When the military tells you to do something you do it retard. I shouldnt need to even explain that to you.';

'>>61410680
>When the military tells you to do something you do it retard
And what "big choices" are they going to tell you that has you draw a line? You're making up scenarios that you would never have experienced. It's okay anon. You can admit you were too weak and dumb to make it through BMT lol';

'>>61410674
Most Air Force jobs are maintainers, and they do not experience a comfy lifestyle. Ignoring that, 1 month off a year isn't that extraordinary when most civilian careers match that and more. Most civilian jobs also don't make you take leave over a weekend, so you can maximize your leave more and use it more effectively. The worst part about Air Force is dealing with the military side of it. Like you said, it's basically a civilian job in uniform, but the uniform makes it worse than it needs to be. Find the civilian equivalent of whatever job you have in the Air Force, and you'll find it's a much better lifestyle.';

'>>61410698
>>You can admit you were too weak and dumb to make it through BMT lol
I already graduated BMT.

Are you ok retard?';

'>>61410726
Your argument doesn't make sense in the context of choosing the objectively worst job in the air force, and the obvious decision of just bailing if you don't want to be in.';

'>>61410726
>Most Air Force jobs are maintainers,

Negative though many are. I was one and quite enjoyed it but anyone who isn't already diehard into related tech should go elsewhere. Sensitive people don't belong in any armed force or around technology. Wise maintainers vanish into swings, mids or smids then PCS without anyone else noticing. Those shifts are where the fun work gets done. Dayhos are for politics and real mechanics tend to hate it. Many maintenance gigs are indeed comfy like Phase Dock where it's mostly doing gearhead things.

As for the lifestyle, how long do you expect to work where you are now? After how many years do you plan to retire?
Not having to work at all is definitely a lifestyle and the deferred compensation in return for a compressed career is insanely nice. Ask other retirees if you doubt that.';

'>>61410787
>talking to anon that brags about quitting BMT
>new retard responds to a post and expects me to know they're a different retard
Ok';

'>>61410824
Only the desperate, ignorant or retarded end up maintainers. You can ship out knowing what your job is and decline to go if it's not something you want. You bailed at BMT. You don't even know what operational is like but still complain and act like your decision is justified based on the few weeks you experienced in boot camp';

'>>61410842
I'm still the same anon you been arguing with retard. I said already I graduated BMT and was sent to medhold right after before being processed to go home. Had my orders etc and they were put on hold.';

'>>61410883
If you never left Lackland, you never graduated BMT.';

'>>61410894
Guess all those guys who graduated from USAF and got there orders to do their AFSC on Lackland never graduated either by your retarded logic.';

'>>61410907
Stop being obtuse anon. Those other guys actually went to a tech school and got processed into a different command. You never left BMT, you only ever knew of BMT. None of your bitching or moaning changes the fact that YOU got filtered by BMT and never graduated.';

'>>61410966
>AKSHUALLY
Ok retard.';

'>>61411039
Yes, you projecting faggot. You're the one who wanted to be "techincal" and look for a gotcha. You never graduated BMT. You quit because you got filtered by BMT. None of your bitching justifies your reason for quitting. You made the wrong choice for laughable reasons. Please continue to moan in a zogbot recruitment thread how bad the air force would hypothetically be because BMT was so miserable for you lmao';

'>>61410856
I'm not the anon who bailed from bmt.';

'>>61411090
Recrooter pls its going to be alright. Just do some more marketing at the local highschool mmkay?';

'>>61411090
>thinking he even went to BMT
That kid grew up on recruitment marketing and then became disillusioned when he found out that Marines don't actually fight dragons on top of volcanoes, so now he wastes his life shitposting on /meg/ to "get back" at people who don't even know he exists.';

'>>61411300
You got filtered by the easiest branch lmao';

'>>61411300
Wait you failed BMT? BWAH HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA. Are you that guy who always shit up this thread with z-tier bait like “are you guys ready to die for Israel” ??';

'>>61411612
>>61411645
Don't you have kids to be grooming? Summer is just around the corner and you better be hitting your recruit numbers this month or its off to the Munitions barracks counting rounds !';

'If my medical records have things on them that would disqualify me from joining the military is there a way to hide them? Do you have to submit everything/will they eventually get access to everything?';

'>>61411746
I deter anyone from joining today's military, doesn't mean I can't laugh at some anon being filtered by AF BMT lmao';

'>>61411746
Reddit ass commentary. I didn’t know you have this much of a mental break down when you get pressed—no wonder why you failed out of the fucking AIR FORCE. You must be really struggling through the anti depression pill shortage';

'>>61411757
What is your condition';

'>>61411757
Just don't say shit and play dumb if it does come up. MHS GENESIS is the new health info system that's been finding more shit on people when they try to join but it's not guaranteed to find anything on you.';

'>>61411921
NTA. Genesis does run a “pre screening” that attempts to find medical documentation on people going into MEPs so they can better tailor the medical questions they’ll ask during the medical interview. If you got diagnosed with anything <5, or have consistent doctor visits, the pre screening will probably be able to find something';

'I told my Marine Corps recruiter about my medical history but once I mentioned I had a 95 asvab he suddenly turned his attitude around. Aiming for 0311 btw';

'Well guys I want to go 28b for the clearance and from what I understand you can get certs while there. Anyone have exp?

I'm already in an entry level IT job but the pay is mid and I want to jump into something with the DOD or something idk';

'>>61412324
Have fun failing out';

'>>61412367
I purposefully made myself dumber so I don't overthink this. My life goals are simple, I want to kill atleast one man and I want to get a pension';

'>>61411885
Ehler Danlos, Autism, etc; All mild, all wouldnt be caught by the screening.
They are however diagnosed.';

'>>61412324
Planning on doing same thing for the same reason. Also going to try to ride in on my ASVAB scores.';

'>>61410397
>Anyone actually in service knows all the ways to get shitcanned.
well obviously yelling nigger out loud will get you discharged. I'm asking about early honorable discharges';

'>>61412607
You cannot get in with autism. I’m sorry.';

'>>61412489
Have fun failing out';

'>>61410406
Ur both faggots LOL';

'can they make me take an ACFT if I've already outprocessed from the unit, and am currently clearing post now?';

'>>61415363
Do what your rank can handle.';

'I bet this dead ass thread will be bumped again. Glowies gotta make sure it's up 24/7';

'Is commissioning a mistake if you already have a decent career on paper? I just cannot take this meaningless bullshit for much longer. I have to work on something bigger and more important or else I’ll jump off a tall building. Can I have that in the Army or will it be non-stop meaningless bullshit?';

'Are there any games that realistically portray a sniper?
>laying down for hours.
>only crawling when you are 100% nothing can spot you
>pissing and shitting right next to yourself
>never getting to shoot anyone because they always call in air strikes';

'>>61416182
Why would glowies care about about recruitment in a completely different department? It's military not law enforcement
>>61415572
My rank is nonexistant after my field grade. Wat do?
>>61416469
Yes, it's a mistake. Officers do nothing but take early lunch breaks and sign leave forms.';

'>>61395356
i know active duty mx guys have shit hours but is it better in the reserves or national guard? would it be possible for them to do college or would they be swamped even then?';

'>>61411645
*AF BMT lmao.';

'>>61416469
It can be a great move if you need to switch careers ASAP as you can walk away after 4-ish years of active duty with management experience, the government ready to pay for your MBA or other graduate degree, and possibly experience in a specific field like intelligence or logistics, depending on how you branch. Just keep in mind that some form of office politics exists in all branches and that you'll be a manager and coordinator more than you'll be a soldier army man.';

'>>61417034
>My rank is nonexistant after my field grade. Wat do?
Show up and score a 362 like a good little junior enlisted goofball who doesn't know what officers do at work.';

'>>61417039
Guard and Reserves work so little most times drill doesn't interfere with school. As an active duty supervisor the problem is to persuade good troops to fucking go to school as it's easy to put them on different shifts in MX or on servicing crew (come in early, prep the days goes, done).';

'>>61417230
so what you're telling me is that reserve and guard guys get all the cool parts (working on jets) with none of the bad (retardedly long hours)?';

'>>61416469
>Is commissioning a mistake if you already have a decent career on paper?

Looking for meaning in your job is a mistake. Jobs are for money so you can eventually not need to work. Those who ignore than tend to retire late and poor or never and poor. Life is a tightrope over a vat of burning smegma and money is your safety net.

Get outside interests, work for money, play for fun. Americans tend to be bad at that due to Calvinist cultural hangovers. Compare options. It's simple. Which choice lets you fully retire for life at the youngest age? Nothing else matters. NOTHING. 4chan tends to be childish. Shoot your inner child in the face. Get money. In case I didn't make that clear enough, get money because much sooner you can imagine you will need it.

If you're making and banking tech money and can fully retire in say fifteen years with all your shit thereafter paid for (including insurance which will later eat hundreds of thousands of dollars) there's no point in serving twenty.

Any officer can fully retire on their pay at twenty. Either way the next 20 years will fly by (no one believes that who hasn't experienced it) so make it pay. You are either way trading your youth for a future.
Decide what future you want to trade your youth for.';

'>>61417318
Not "none" because you'll still have exercises and sometimes deployments but it's quite painless. Ideal for example are fighter units with an Alert commitment because sitting Alert is just easy work and waiting to launch. Anything hard broke gets towed back to the squadron and replaced. (Fun fact, personal cable modems authenticate by MAC address so you can and we did bring ours in to surf the outside net with zero connection to any military network. I often brought mine and any Alert shack has cable TV.)

Some people are happy with maintenance but others do nothing but snivel piteously beyond the mandatory G.I. griping. Most fine supervision less enjoyable than working broke aircraft which are fun techy puzzles while paperwork sucks everywhere.

Go ask people who do what might interest you at the unit you will work at. Get a variety of LOCAL opinions because a good unit is a joy while a toxic one is like stapling your balls together. Airmen are a friendly lot and won't sugar coat their experience. Get a variety of opinions because some toops would complain about having an orgasm. reddit is useful (the world doesn't post on 4chan) for local info too.';

'>>61416469
If you hate meaningless bullshit, the army will make you kill yourself.
I am unironically advising that you look at the air force despite ots rates being historically low. I recommend the usaf because junior officer development is shit in the branch, so cgos can run around volunteering for all types of wild shit that army officers can only dream of.
The army develops its officers very deliberately to possibly be the next service leader, whereas the air force is just random nonsense and it is everyone for themselves. This provides unique opportunities for experimentation in an officer career.';

'>>61417392
gotcha. thanks anon.';

'>>61417323
I’m already in a job where I’m getting paid to do basically nothing and my job is secure for as long as I want it. I’m just so bored to death and you know talking with bosses and shit about irrelevant pointless bullshit and then being so stupid is torture. I just have this terribly nagging feeling like this is not what I was meant to do with my life and so it feels like I’m wasting it.';

'>>61417323
Dude, almost nobody working for a wage can realistically retire within 15 years. Not bankers and not tech workers. Maybe 1% of them will get to do that. If you work for a wage,';

'>>61417961
Serious techies aren't working for "wages" as commoners know them. That's like calling a stock trader or lawyer a "wagie". The rest of the market is flooded by lemmings. Competing in a race to the bottom is unwise unless you really are awesome.

OTOH sidestepping into lesser known fields avoids nasty shit like periodic layoffs. If one is a wagie changing their circumstance via government jobs is the historically reliable tradition. LEO, USPS, any number of civil government gigs from tax office to wastewater treatment (humans shit in good times and bad), Merchant Marine and all sorts of niche jobs no one thinks about and of course never make the idiotarian media are the way not just in CONUS but globally.

Dead eyed focus on your future and methodical planning pay off. Those careers have always been solid and difficult to outsource because without them civilization founders. While the beautiful post-WWII bubble deluded a nation things could stay that way, the above-mentioned jobs got millions of people through the Great Depression.

Every problem has been solved that matters IRL so I find the fuckers who solved it and copy them. It's worked superbly for millions self-included. I don't care about shit I'm supposed to care about.

>>61417510
The Air Force has so many different jobs they don't need cookie cutter officers. Medical troops do medical shit (and frequently leave because the civilian market will remain so strong for decades), Contracting does their thing (then become civilians in retirement and do it again or work for vendors), etc, etc. Test Wing toads play at Eglin in their little world etc.

Sending a tiny few officers off to get shot at means most don't need bullet sponge experience. Bonus, collective American inability to produce then elect leaders capable of rejecting strategically foolish constabulary operations affects the AF far less than the expendables at tip of spear. There are many ways to serve...';

'>>61417953
How soon can you retire (years please, since I never see that on 4chan) and why define life through job? Veterans who do lose their sense of purpose in retirement because their mindset fucked them over, not externalities. OTOH I found the Air Force fun and maintenance fun. The hours did not bother me though they really trigger some who are wise not to re-up, but four years isn't much to find out if whatever field you choose is for you. The aviation community is different than being cannon fodder.

The armed forces don't sink any human boats who weren't leaking to begin with. It won't hurt to give it a go. Enlisting got me out of New Jersey. It's a way to reroll and get a complete fresh start.';

'>>61415363
>>61415572
Do what your date of separation can handle

>>61416469
Commissioned officers are looked upon pretty highly, so you'd probably benefit from commissioning unless you're making a shitload of money. Even if you are making a shitload of money, you can still go Guard/Reserve. If whatever company you're working for has military differential pay supposedly it's easy to cut orders and fuck off to the military for a few months when you're burnt out. I was never a Reservist so I don't know how true that is but it's what I've heard.
>Can I have that in the Army or will it be non-stop meaningless bullshit?
I can't speak for that branch, but it varies by unit.';

'>>61412725
How do you hide something like that though? If I got diagnosed when I was 13 theres gotta be a way out.';

'>>61417204
even junior officers acknowledge this, sorry to crush your dreams, cadet';

'>>61418394
>There are many ways to serve...
It is weird that you would mention three officer jobs that exist in every branch except the usmc in your post.
USAF officer development is shit and even the CSAF acknowledges this, which is why they announced the personnel development initiatives at the last AFAWS.
Are you even in the air force? I hope not, because your thinking is decades behind where the force needs to be.';

'>>61418462
If I stay in my job I can realistically retire within 25 years, certainly within 30. That puts me at about 55-60. If I really push it hard I could retire in 20 years at about 50, maybe even 40s but I’d have to really push it hard.

I don’t think life has to be defined through a job. It’s just that the cold reality is that we spend most of our lives at our jobs so if your job is pointless you’re literally wasting your life. That is my attitude anyway. A life spent counting down the hours to retirement so I can do nothing for ever seems like a life wasted.

I guess the silver lining here is that since it’s military service they would have to keep my seat warm.';

'>>61418394
I’m a public uni employee in California so I know all about these careers. I have to disagree about the techies. It’s not 2015 anymore. Nobody is getting early stage equity in a unicorn. They are indeed working for wages.';

'The other day i posted about the Norwegian foot march. Well i did it today. I got 4:00 flat. My knees are wrecked. Did it with my ALICE pack. Im convinced, ALICE packs will never go away from the force. They are just that good.';

'FRIENDLY REMINDER:

If you are going to enlist in any branch of service; DO NOT ENLIST FOR GROUND VEHICLE MECHANIC OF ANY KIND, CBRN DEFENSE, OR COOK.

YOU WILL HATE YOUR LIFE.

That is all, thank you.';

'>>61420491
how about enlisting as a tanker?';

'>>61420540
Work with tankers all the time (Bradley guy myself).

Can be a really cool and fun job, just remember that the amount if time doing actual tank shit (like all Army jobs) is going to be relatively small compared to doing other random bullshit (you will become intimately familiar with the inside of your unit's motor pool).

For example: During gunnery you're gonna complete 3 Live-Fire table and 1 blank fire/dry table. Each of those tables has a day and night iteration. Runs on the lane go for 15-45 minutes during which you will be maneuvering and engaging targets with Tanks sensors and weapons systems very very fun and cool.

HOWEVER: this is like a week long field event where you will not be sleeping. For every itteration on the lane there is a massive amount of bullshit you must do: Pre-fire checks, ammo upload, ammo download, RSO Pit/Clearing, Unloading dunnage, PMCSing the Tank and of course everyone's favorite: waiting for sometimes hours in the ready-line at Redcon 2.

So total amount of fun having in your 6 days of being in the field: maybe 2-3 hours amount of time spent doing bullshit, we'll generally allow you to sleep 4hrs/night in my experience (I was hot-seating another Brad and went 40hrs+ without sleeping on three separate occasions)

6 days 144 hrs, 3 having fun (141), 24 sleeping = 117 hours doing random sometimes extremely tedious and annoying bullshit.

If that ratio is cool with you (and the 3hrs doing fun stuff IS extremely cool) then tanker is a good fit.';

'>>61417039
Seconding this but for 91 series
(Namely 91a, b, m, and s)
>>61420491
>>61420581
Also kinda wondering the same thing here too. It seems everybody's complaint is just the hours when it comes to maintenance and I feel like that'd be a lot more bearable in the guard/reserves where it's just a part time job';

'>>61420581
Thank you for the rundown bradley guy.';

'>>61420734
Ground vehicle maintainers just get worked like dogs all the time non-stop. If you truly, truly love working on and fixing vehicles it may be very rewarding; you'll certainly get more opportunities to do your job than pretty much any other job. The Army needs mechanics, but I discourage people from doing it because I've seen so many burnt out people who no longer gave a fuck and hated it.

Cook is the same thing, just absolute shit hours (nights and weekends especially) but you ALSO get basically no respect.';

'>>61420857
Yeah I just feel like it'd be a lot more manageable and less asinine as a weekend job with a TDY though. Although I'm not sure if that's true';

'bump';

'>>61420857
Damn even cooks get dogshit hours?';

'>>61423433
They wake up the earliest to prepare for breakfast';

'>T-45 fleet gets downed again
>will literally be an 0-3 before winging at this point

Flight school woes';

'Do you keep in contact with your buds who have left the military?';

'>>61426200
Some of them, yeah. Others I regret not keeping up with. Then there are some who went back to being security guards at weed dispensaries or flipping burgers like they did before they joined who will ask people from their former units for money every now and then who I just ignore.';

'>>61395356
if i already have a few tech certs from before i enlist, would that change anything? should i get more while in?';

'>>61426753
They might be worth promotion points depending on your chosen branch. If you go for a rate/AFSC/MOS that has to do with cyber or intel they might be useful to your job.';

'>>61426763
gotcha. thanks anon';

'>24 year old Ethan Phelan Melzer, a private assigned to the 173rd Airborne Brigade in Vicenza, Italy, planned a jihadist attack on his Army unit in the days leading up to a deployment to Turkey and sent sensitive details about the unit — including information about its location, movements and security — to members of the extremist organization Order of the Nine Angles, according to court documents. The group is a white supremacist, neo-Nazi and pro-jihadist organization.

That's new. Did they mean Angels? Whats with pagans and the military anyway?
https://www.stripes.com/theaters/us/2023-03-03/army-soldiers-italy-ambush-paratrooper%C2%A0-9343669.html';

'I’m drunk and all I have to say is fuck the M60 I hated having to lug that thing around.';

'>>61426200
The ones that haven’t killed themselves or took their VA gibs and ran off into the woods? Yeah. We call each other up every 6 months or so just to do a “hey man, don’t die” pep talk and reminisce over a stupid story or two.';

'>>61423433
Ehh being a cook in the military is underrated. The Philippino mafia is a very real thing in the Navy and if you get in good with them, your life is easy.';

'>>61417961
Spoiler alert: retirement is a meme. Unless you are a factory drone meat robot and the only value you provide is your body, you’ll never actually retire.

Unless you are a super hardcore fuck everything and everyone type person, someone from your 40+ year career is gonna come along and offer you a part time gig doing something easy (see: “consultancy”) and too much money for you to pass up. You know what happens to the guys who really retire? They die in a few years.';

'is there still a discord, noticed the old one was gone a long time ago and just wanted to check up on ppl';

'bros Epic Passes are on sale. Actually they've been on sale for like two weeks or something, I just forgot to post about it.
Reminder that if you are in the military and you live within a few hours' drive of a ski resort, you ARE RETARDED if you don't buy an Epic Pass and go snowboarding (or skiing).
>80% off from normal rates
>Fun
>Good exercise
>Lots of hot girls and rich dudes
>Go to medical for all your injuries and then get VA gibs when you separate
>VA is basically paying you to snowboard
Speaking of injuries I feel kind of dumb right now, maybe I got some micro concussions on the slopes today. I feel great though.';

'>>61428733
Anon can you elaborate on this? For memorial day I get a 4 day starting on the 25th so I’d be fucking down to go on a actual vacation';

'>>61428733
Nvm anon I found it it’s all so tiresome';

'Don't know if anyone can help me but I've been an MI Officer in a S2 slot for the past 2 years. However I am being assigned to an MICO for a year of PL time. Is there anything I should read up on besides basic IPB, etc. Any good equipment to take to the field? I am getting to the unit a week before the IBCT goes to XCTC.';

'>>61428764
Memorial Day would fall under this season, not next season, so uhh I think you'd have to go with a multi-day pass rather than an Epic Pass (they're not on sale for this season anymore).
Also I think every ski resort in this hemisphere will be closed by Memorial Day. Looking it up, it appears they sometimes stay open that late, even into June, but it depends entirely on snow conditions. And the snow this season was kind of shit, at least in Colorado, not sure about other states.';

'>>61428806
Ya I looked at all of it and figured it out on my own thanks though anon from you token of help';

'>CCAF finally mailed me my fucking diploma almost two years after I had completed the degree (July 2022)
>Open the envelope
>A piece of the diploma is attached to the envelope
>They got the fucking seal adhesive stuck to the fucking diploma, which now has a two-inch gash ripped out
holy shit lol, a final fuck you I guess';

'>>61395356
If I get a job with only an S clearance, how hard will it be to get a TS clearance once I'm out';

'>>61409704
MF just go 35 series. Plenty of intel nerds with asvabs in the 70's. Maybe go airforce if you want quality of life. Or be real nigga and go tacp or rasp/160th as 35 series.';

'>>61430348
You'd have to find someone willing to pay for your clearance upgrade.
>>61431475
>RASP
>160th
Cool units, to be sure, but there are definitely spookier things you can get into as 35 series.';

'>>61430348
>how hard will it be to get a TS clearance once I'm out
very lol, unless you have a skill set that is REALLY in demand or you are a 25 series. What MOS did you have?';

'>>61395356
lots of people mentioning 35N but I can't find much about it or what that MOS does. Can anybody give me a rundown?';

'>>61432689
none, but i got a 96 on my asvab so I qualify for them and think it'd do me better to just go for a TS clearance job';

'>>61432695
As with every job it depends where you are and what your role is. Be prepared to be in school for a loooong time. It is def a good option to choose, you will work with computers, radio traffic etc, probably have to learn a foreign language.
>>61432703
I mean yeah, pick a 25 or 35 series job.';

'>be European
>start new job
>one of the managers is a cozy old ex-military guy
>he's now the XO of a local company of a voluntary guard corps kinda like the National Guard
>they're known for dealing with natural disasters, run guard duty, aid the police, etc
>we hit it off immediately
>takes me to meet the company
>bunch of incredibly cool dudes
>convinces me to sign up
>turns out him and the CO are both former specops guys who run the company like a proper military one
>half the company is retired specops/equivalently important people
>other half is young motivated people with potential (I apparently fall in this category)
>the guy is on first name basis with top people in the active military forces of my country
>he gets my paperwork sent through in weeks instead of months by making a few phone calls
>already has plans to send me on several courses so I can learn battlefield medicine and how to be a squad leader
>not because he wants me to be a squad leader, but because he expects every "active" member of his company to have an understanding of what the people above and below them do so that they can substitute if needed
>has also offered me to do arctic training and jump out of a fucking air plane
I have NO idea what the fuck I have gotten myself involved in, but it's all happening very fast and it's all rather exciting.';

'I've joined the Canadian reserves as an Armoured Officer, and am set to leave for a month's basic training end of this month. However, I'm having serious doubts if this is actually something I want to do. Qualification after basic training would take 2 full summers, which I don't want to give up. Even giving up a full month for basic training sounds miserable, when I could be chilling on the beach and having sex regularly.
My reasons for joining were mostly the aesthetic, I like the look and sound of being a military officer, I like the idea of being trained for combat, I like wearing a uniform and a beret, I like the status associated with the position. I'm inspired by the stories of heroes and leaders performing great feats in the heat of combat, although I know this is incredibly unlikely to actually happen. But getting up at 5 am? Fuck that. I also don't enjoy being told what to do, and I don't give a shit about this country.

The problem is I'm worried that I'll regret not giving it a shot, at the very least. Is there some way to scratch the military itch without actually joining?';

'Not a felon. Fit.
If the US military doesnt accept me, what are other militaries that will accept me? Shitholes and everything. I speak Spanish but can learn any language.';

'>>61433328
40k dollar alpha male bootcamp scams
Airsoft/paintball
SWAT, bomb squads, firefighting for just the overall man in uniform feel
Tarkov and other video games
Training in any martial art just to get a combat rush and then shooting at range';

'I'll be laughing when all you die for israel.';

'>>61433375
Ill die for anything if they let me in the fucking thing';

'>>61433375
i just dislike and want to harm brown people desu';

'>>61432695
You'll work as an analyst dealing primarily with SIGINT. If you look up the Wikipedia article on it you'll get a decent rundown on what SIGINT is and some of what goes into using it.
6 month AIT at Goodfellow AFB, San Angelo, Texas, must be eligible for a TS clearance and be able to pass a counterintelligence scope polygraph (easy if you're not a felon, retard, or terrorist and aren't in massive debt), no language required, roughly 65-35 odds of going INSCOM or FORSCOM (think NSA sites and national-level strategic stuff versus actual Army units and tactical on-the-ground stuff). Lots of opportunities for unique and challenging work, especially if you're fit, willing to stay in past your first contract, and willing to go to tryouts and selections. Also opportunities to get into cleared cyber work if you get a JCAC slot out of AIT (fairly rare at the moment, YMMV) or reenlist for it.
Downsides are the chances of doing shift work at INSCOM or getting wrecked by the never ending CTC/deployment/trainup cycle meat grinder in FORSCOM and having smarmy thin skinned reddit faggots as coworkers at some units.';

'>>61433902
So...king POG?';

'>>61433902
>thin skinned reddit faggots as coworkers at some units
r/army confirms this';

'>>61433923
It can be, if you want. Once you get a bit further into your career there are a set of very un-POG programs you can apply for which will have you doing [redacted]. You won't be shooting people in the face or kicking in doors unless shit goes really wrong but you will be doing very unconventional and interesting stuff.';

'>>61396200
wait when the fuck did the Army PT test move to a fucking 10:30 mile to pass?

It was 15:58 to pass two miles when I was in';

'>>61433942
Since the ACFT was introduced like 4 years ago';

'>>61403897
>Security forces
worst job in the AF';

'Korea or Hawaii for a 35N?';

'>>61438333
Hawaii if it's the Kunia or Wahiawa spook sites.
Otherwise Korea';

'undefined';

'>>61440188
Was this meme run through google translate? Created by generative AI?';

'Hey all. So, I'm an infantry joe just learning how things are, and along my way I've learned of some various things you can do in the Army. The thing is, I always learn the most from some senior SPC, or maybe a cool E5, or some E7 at the gym in civvies who just feeling nice that day. Everyone where Im at seems to know and talk about RASP, SFAS, or even things like the warrant flight packet. However, from the people I've mentioned above, Ill occasionally find other interesting info. It'll be things like trying to sign up for DLAB every 6mo (least if you dont pass off the bat), stuff about green team for 160th, CA and other ARSOF opportunities. Or even just more niche jobs other than "go 17c bro you'll make a ton of money".

Do any of you have any advice on cool shit to pursue that I can start off training or testing for for my remaining 2 years in the Infantry? Not that I hate the infantry really, but I just feel like its best as a gut check and toughening up more than being an actual good job. No real fighting going on for conventional guys rn. Id like to either switch MOSs and/or do a selection or packet but Im looking around before just defaulting to RASP 11B transfer, or SFAS like everyone else. Thanks for any advice!';

'>>61440935
>staying in infantry
-If your battalion has a sniper section, ask them when their next tryouts are. The sniper world is pretty cool and is full of smart, motivated guys, and you'll end up rubbing shoulders with higher speed people at the schoolhouse and later in your career if you go this route.
-Ranger School will basically lubricate your path to promotion if you're down for that.
RASP will have you doing some cool stuff, obviously since it's le current year you probably won't be shooting people in the face but you will get to do coolguy training in a unit full of motivated people. Downside: being a transfer to the 75th (aka 'import') will be very rough, especially if you go there without a tab.
-SFAS is always open and you'll also get to do coolguy stuff if you go that route. If you can run consistent sub 13:00 2 miles and ruck under 2:20 for a 12 mile then consider chatting up your post SORB. Even if you can't meet those standards right now, think about talking to them if this is something you want to pursue as they generally work with people and only send them to SFAS when they're ready.
>not staying in infantry
-Warrant flight packet, heads up you'll have a 10 year ADSO after finishing flight school though
-Drop a reclass packet for 17C if you're already fairly handy with cyber shit and/or have certs to your name.
-Drop a reclass packet for a "smart guy" MOS: 12P, 25D, 35P/N/S (I highly recommend N tho), 89D, there are a couple I'm forgetting. These are all fairly different but will give you greater chances of getting useful skills and experience for when you get out and/or let you network with government agencies and spooks who can possibly also give you a job when you ETS.
(con't)';

'>>61440994
One thing to note: for the intel guys, there are a set of spooky units you can apply for once you have a decent track record of knowing your job. The premier one of these is whoever the fuck it is that USAPAB selects people for; look them up on Milsuite (CAC enabled) if you want their recruiting pitch. There are others you won't be able to learn about through public resources or unclass networks. These units are not direct action pipe hitters like CAG or ST6 but they do unconventional wacky shit you'll never be able to tell anyone about and (supposedly) have great quality of life, soldier satisfaction, and promotion rates besides. Some of these units do have openings for combat arms soldiers; however, the competition is much stiffer for that crowd as compared to SIGINT/HUMINT weenies (not that it's incredibly easy for them either, mind you).
-Besides the obvious SOCOM shit, consider applying for Civil Affairs or PSYOPS. Sure, you won't be a Real Green Beenie, but those guys also do some cool stuff, deploy more often than a peacetime mechanized infantry unit does these days, and can set you up with networking opportunities for agencies and shit.
-Talk to your post ARNG/USAR representatives and see if there's an NG unit that will let you come off active duty to do Rep 63 for NGSF. I admittedly don't know much about this but supposedly Rep 63 guys have the highest pass rate of any population at SFAS. If you go this route you can be a civilian and go to college and if you get bored you can hop on a deployment, though there are probably some tradeoffs and caveats I don't know about.';

'>>61441051
Final bit of advice:
Don't start turning into a shitbag because you have XYZ lined up or plan to go to ABCD, you can burn bridges that way. Be excellent at your unit and they'll likely be more willing to send you off to things.
At the same time, don't feel married to the infantry or the Army, and don't feel like a shitbag for making career decisions for yourself. Yeah, there's a shortage of combat arms guys right now, yeah retention and recruiting is bad, yeah your unit could probably use a Bradley gunner/team leader/senior SAW gunner/whatever the fuck and you could fill that spot instead of being selfish and leaving for selection/AIT/etc, but it's not your job to fix what HQDA fucked up and it's not your job to keep your unit running.
Also, start cranking out CLEP/DSST/DANTES tests like no tomorrow, go to your post education center and see what colleges partner with them, and start looking into using your TA. It doesn't really matter what path you take, that stuff will only benefit you.';

'>>61433348
us army accepts everyone retard';

'>>61440994
Thank you very much. If I was going to reclass and stay reg army and be a pog (nonderogatory), I was really looking hard at 12P. I think I'd bag it in the end. Im not "real shit" smart but without studying and being kinda hungover I did get a 94 ASVAB, 126 GT, all other scores high teens or into 120+. I think if I just actually studied and didnt fuck around drinking It'd work out. Probably same with a good deal of MOS's, but who knows. Warrant Flight Id only ever consider if I woke up and decided to full send 20, which considering im only 2.5y TiS is tough. 17E looks interesting if I went sof/spooky but I havent found too much detailed info on it.

Ill check out USAPAB. This is actually the kind of stuff Im interested in but the info is hard to come by... I've heard theres opportunities for reclassed inf to go into something like signal and then end up doing SMU work. Orange type shit. However, I also spoke to two 25+ year ret GBs at this range I shoot at and they laughed their asses off about orange, saying they were clowns with weapons at least and fucked something or another up. Mind you, this was probably them bullshitting about something from 04 or whatever. I just lean this way because I feel like if I did go SF I'd try for E/D anyways, and same if I went to RASP. Id do it after reclassing because I already know imports get treated like shit and likely wont even be given a shot as a 11B/C TL after making stripes, just moved off somewhere because of the culture. Lame.

Right now I am torn, part of me does want to full send like 9 months or so of hard training and then go to SFAS. I sorta mentioned above but I go to this private range thats all GBs after I met one guy who liked me. They said to go SF and that CA is weenies who clean up their mess and pay off locals for dead goats and broken houses, and that Psyops and any signal/intel people are gay too but lol...I think they just like bullshitting and appealing to that "dont be a pussy" mentality.';

'>>61441130
Ill definitely keep up on all of this too. For what its worth Im not shitbagging nor being a snob to anyone. I've seen how it goes when you rub people the wrong way. Im good with my boys, and anyone I dont like who is around, I still act professional and keep shit tight. Thank you again for taking the time to help me out.';

'Just signed up for nuke /k/ what am I in for? Yes I read the sticky. Dude sounds like a pussy.';

'>>61433348
Cartels are hiring, better equipment too';

'>>61441329
>>61441429
I'd highly recommend taking bullshittery that dudes at the range tell you with a grain of salt.
For what it's worth, yes, there are some faggy thin skinned reddit type people in the intel field, and yes you might have to work with them if you go that route, but I definitely wouldn't write off whole units because of that, or because some people did retarded shit this one time.
If you do intend to pursue SMUs, I'd probably go 35N, simply because you'll have the greatest career flexibility and ability to go to units that will provide you with relevant skills and experience. There are quite a few out there, more than even GB/Ranger types will have heard of. On the flip side, if you really just want to do more combat arms stuff or direct action then the GB/Ranger route is probably the way to go.
Good luck with whatever you choose, and good on you for not letting your first unit sandpaper your motivation away like is too often the case for new guys.';

'>>61441472
Thanks a third time brotha. I do know, definitely not discounting intel work, Im considering it very highly still. Ah, its just going to take a while to figure it all out. Ill start some new research on what you mentioned. Also, Ill throw it out that garrison infantry can be sandpaper-y some days, but Id rather just use that as motivation to amp up and move out in a positive way rather than going "dude the army fucking sucks bro we do nothing. PSGs a bitch just keeping us late because hes not married and gets no pussy. Im lying about SFL Tap shit to stay home and then when I ETS, im working for my cousins friend making bank". Anyways, have a good night. Good luck to anyone else joining or seeking advice.';

'>Navy Nuke
>Grunt Style
>Navy mom license plate
>XORCST license plate number
>Brand new Chevy Trax
Seems like a nice supportive mom but I wonder if she understands what is happening to her poor son.';

'>Military Enlistment General
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHHAHAHAAAA';

'>>61443179
What's up tourist';

'>>61443210
The joke is that he's pro-commissioning instead';

'>>61440710
>paranoiac airman thinks everything is AI generated
many such cases';

'4 years in the Muhreens
Before I go and Google it, what are some other "employment opportunities" abroad that dont just include standing by some fuckwits limo and hoping niggers dont attack?';

'>>61446374
>not just shooting niggers dead
ISHYGDDT';

'>>61445389
>ma, helmetard thinks the gubment gives a fuck about him again
>nah, he still hasnt bathed';

'SAGE';

'>>61395356
Alright nerds I really want to join the marines but I have some med history, anxiety depression etc. No, this isn't going to affect me in training. They told me to lie to meps, get my doctors to not sign over documents etc. However i'm scared I'll get found out, and also I already shared some stuff with the national guard recruiter and she's trying to send me to meps. haven't gone yet tho.

What do you think? I should i just join the lame ass army?

I have a bachelor's and am an EMT, so i'm not some high school bozo.';

'>>61448662
army is 100x better than the marines. the only thing the marines offer is the title which means nothing. still dogshit quality of life, dogshit leadership, get treated like trash.
what MOS do you want retard?';

'>>61448814
to be a marine lol. The battles i am most inspired by all involve the marines lol. I guess i'd take air cav or bradley crew or something. Could also go intel, but meh.';

'>>61448662
you will never join any branch with those issues, either documented or self reported';

'>>61448852
guard and army doesn't seem to care. Let's hope you're wrong!';

'>>61448825
Air cavalry doesn't exist anymore and the whole scout world is in a weird spot. 19D is disappearing to be replaced with 11 series and 19K. Are recruiters still slotting this shit? They are not even letting us reenlist unless you're 7 and up with esb or a cab.
Buddy when you go to meps you start your new life and record. I lied, we all lied. I've never even heard of anyone getting ucmj for meps shit.
If your job starts with 1 you will do cool guy shit 10% of the time, of which virtually all is training or bogus kuwait tier deployments, the other 90% is clown makeup. Gwot is over';

'>>61395356
alright, it's time to shed weight and get ready. I want to sign a 3-year contract 11x. I'm pretty sure I am too old to join the Rangers or Green Beret, but I will be damned if I don't try.
Wish me luck, guys; I always wanted to be a warrior.
Also, what's the minimum requirement to get into fat camp?';

'>>61449075
That's fair. I guess you're saying I should do intel then? I got a 90 on the asvab, I should be qualified';

'Happy 4/20 Day /meg/. Weed is the second most overrated drug (behind benzos) out there.';

'>>61395356
How come american mortar layers lay it alone??
In the FDF there's one guy balancing the mortar and another laying it. Seems like a nightmare laying and balancing at the same time.';

'>stationed in okinawa
>bought 3 guns on gunbroker
>have to wait months until I go on leave to pick them up';

'>>61450969
Intel is great if you like sitting in windowless rooms making slide decks. I haven't heard a lot of people whine about the lifestyle, but if you want to larp call of duty, you literally never will even downrange. 35 series are analysts. Collection is now absorbed in infantry reconnaissance and sof
Unironically did more real world secret squirrel shit in scouts, intel people just interviewed us about it after';

'>>61395943
If American soldiers aren't pussies, then how come they lost to Taliban?';

'>>61453780
Back to Moscow comrade.';

'Test';

'>>61454327
>There are still McDonalds in Afghanistan you fucking Commie';

'>>61396200
>>61396200
Coz the females are failing it at an "aLaRmInG" rate';

'Shipping to Army basic soon.
I'm relatively out of shape and wondering what mentality to bring in. Stay present and go meal to meal?
Also how is the bus ride down? Do they let you use your phone until you get there or should I bring a book or something?';

'>>61455110
>I'm relatively out of shape
they will get you in shape, but you should start running now.
>>61455110
>bus ride down
They take away your phone at reception when you get to the base.';

'>>61455110
One meal at a time is a tried and true strategy';

'>>61455110
>what mentality to bring in.
you will literally be getting paid to get in better shape and learn stuff. Even when things suck, the story you tell yourself about whats happening to you is more important than the suck of whats happening to you.';

'>>61442109
>EM
easily the worst flavor of nuke';

'What's the ugliest woman a serviceman has ruined his life over?';

'>>61446435
>helmetard
huh?';

'>>61458232
Explain';

'>>61461144
>Jerusalem Post
Lol';

'>>61455110
No one is in shape, the training is just hard. We had serious collegiate athletes, everyone has a limit and they will find it
I used meals to mark time when we weren't sleeping much. But we got rekt before and after every meal. Just shut your brain off
No phones as soon as we hit that bus and I didn't see it again until we graduated. Fuck that book, just sit in your thoughts.';

'>>61453759
one of the things i do as a hobby is collect, archive, sort and tag combat footage from ukraine. What kind of MOS does stuff like that?';

'What will happen to me if I fail AIT? I have failed my first retest and have 2 more left to take. I am worried they will give me a shit job after. Does anyone know if I get to pick my MOS in the U.S. army or am i screwed?

I also had a degree and went enlisted in the U.S. army reserves. Did I fuck up?
Would being an officer in the U.S. army reserves have helped me secure a better job as a manager than just going enlisted? The whole point of me joining was to better my resume and help me get jobs easier

Someone please help and give me advice.

But now that I am in this situation, what is my best course of action? Do you get to pick a new job if you fail your AIT? Will I be forced to become a cook?';

'>>61463222
Just pass your retest, goofball.
If you get dropped from the course you'll go to a different AIT. Needs of the Army.
What course are you in?';

'>>61462035
MMNs are chill (including ELTs), ETNs are just weird, autistic, and do fake maintenance, while EMNs think they're god's gift to the Navy. They become even more insufferable if they pick up LDO.';

'>>61463222
>Would being a [manager] in the U.S. army reserves have helped me secure a better job as a manager than just going enlisted?
nigga do you really have to ask this?';

'Anyone know anything about going from one branch as enlisted to another branch as an officer? Does your former enlisted service in your old branch basically not matter when submitting your officer package?';

'>>61463222
Officer route is always better, full stop. Enlisted is only worth it if you're fresh out of high school or missed that boat, have no college degree, and just really wanna join the military before you're too old.';

'>>61463808
I am 27 years old and have a bachelors in Communications, I joined because i thought I wanted to do something technical, but now that I am in the AIT I realize I don't like it. So I made a really shitty choice.

Luckily I only signed a 3 year contract in the reserves but what is my best course of actions if I want to set myeslf up for a good job on the outside once im out?';

'>>61463808
Did I screw myself out of a good future job since I would have been a reserves officer in the U.S. army?';

'Reminder that the US military started using a “Genesis” medical screening system that will compile your entire life’s medical data.
Want a fresh start?
Misdiagnosed in the past?
Nope.
Can’t have that. And if you try lying, enjoy getting embarrassed and sent home.

What a shitshow. Enjoy your slop recruits.
If you want to serve your country do it in a way that matters.';

'>>61463900
>Did I screw myself out of a good future job
No, you just signed up for 3-5 years of unnecessary military service. You fucked yourself over for the short-mid term future. Longterm it really just won't matter unless you're going for a government job afterwards.';

'>>61464033
What are the chances that i can have the Navy or the Air force take over my contract if I want to be an officer in their branch? I am going to get an IT bachelors degree this year to make me more competetive.';

'>>61463879
>what is my best course of actions if I want to set myeslf up for a good job on the outside once im out?
Speak to a career councilor when you're on your way out of active service. I'd imagine most people who come in this general are either not even in yet or are active duty, so nobody here will be a great help.
I'm active duty, but I know that government jobs give a massive hiring preference to veterans, so that's always an option.';

'>>61464043
Idk but if you find out you should post it here cause I'm >>61463800 and wanna know the same thing lol';

'How closely monitored is your internet use in the military? Will I get in trouble for typing le bad words on 4chan?
>>61463979
My recruited literally told me to lie about having smoked weed and shit, presumably to avoid extra paperwork';

'>>61464388
New Thread';

'>>61464075
dont do it on a gov computer and youre fine. nobody monitors your personal shit';