'>>27634040
Gas is $10/gallon, taxes based on engine size and emissions. Govt altready takes ~55% of my pay in taxes (+25,5% VAT) so I really couldn't afford one.';

'Japanese full sized and midsized trucks are designed and manufactured in the US or Mexico. Tundras are more American-made than F-150s are at this point.';

'>>27634040
The Titan and Tundra were designed in the US and never sold in Japan. They likely see no point in even trying to enter the market because many full size truck buyers instantly dismiss anything that isn't a Ford, Dodge, or Chevy no matter how good it actually is. See the Titan, they were pretty solid but nobody bought one anyway and now it's discontinued.';

'>>27634040
even adjusted for price, gas, practicality, etc. the car culture/fashion is just different in europe, a pickup truck is just not something people think of when they want a family car, if you want something big, showoffy and practical you get a big suv - a truck just wouldn't even occur to people as an option, normal families buying them is a foreign concept most people who haven't been to America don't even know exists anywhere
and for professionals who need to move stuff a van is generally more practical than a pickup since it has more cargo space and is enclosed for protection against the elements and thieves
of course farmers etc. still like them and do buy them (but even then in much smaller numbers than in America) but when you've eliminated the truck-as-a-family-car market what's left isn't a very large market and the European makes aren't losing out by much by giving up the domestic market to the americans and japanese
>even if just for the american market
not saying it's impossible but Americans are patriotic about their trucks, much more so than about their cars - fighting ford, gm and chrysler on their home turf wouldn't be easy especially since these wouldn't sell in the home market so doing well in America would make or break the product line';

'>>27634128
>>27634070
/Thread';

'>>27634070
>See the Titan, they were pretty solid
Weren't they known for sucking catalytic converter parts up into the engine requiring an engine replacement?

And the Tundra sells about as fast as the dealerships can get them, so jap trucks sell fine, people just don't trust Nissan anymore.';

'>>27634040
The Mercedes Sprinter is manufactured in Germany and the US.';

'>>27634275
Only if you're a poorfag that gets a p0420/p0430 code and ignores it forever';

'>>27634070
Lmao the titan was an abysmal heap of shit, less reliable than fordshit.
Tundra and Chevy pickups are the only two brands worth buying.';

'>>27634040
>OP pic

I don't blame Epstein.

White women are only good from 16-25';

'>>27634382
a fucking subaru is more reliable than any 5.4 lmao';

'>>27634040
Europe cities and roads are too small, it make no sense to have a truck here.
Only niggers, nafris and retarded boomers would buy them anyway, professionals would keep their old reliable utilitarian than can fit in a garage.';

'>>27634040
What's this then?';

'>>27634794
A lorry, doesn't count as a pickup truck by american definitions.
The VW Amarok is a body on frame truck though, that should count';

'>>27634040
No market for it? It's not really viable as a daily driver for larpers due streets in most euro cities not being large enough and real tradies/farmers just drive vans because they're cheaper. Also, as others have said, none of the Japanese BoF shit is actually made or sold in Japan (except the land cruiser and hilux).';

'>>27634845
Cheaper and more secure, you need to break into them to steal anything.';

'>>27634813
1/4 tons are not trucks.';

'>>27634862
Good thing it can haul 1100kg then, aka 1.1 tons';

'>>27634813
You missed the part in OP that specified FULL SIZE';

'>>27634040
Would.';

'>>27634040
>The japs did it and japan is more densely populated than europe
They only sell it in murica you retard.';

'VW Amarok';

'Mercedes did the x-class too. They look cool in the base but they have a smaller engine.';

'>>27635163
thats a rebadged nissan frontier';

'>>27634040
Because we have actual work trucks';

'>>27635289
When those are not enough we have actual full size trucks and not those glorified US trucks';

'>>27634040
Generally speaking they don't make as much sense as a van here, due to how we regulate stuff based on weight, emissions and such

Something like >>27635289 has a more spacious cab, a higher payload, larger load surface, easier to load pallets on, more configurable. Shared platforms also help keep R&D-costs down';

'>>27634040
VW Amarok is a full size body on frame. It is just not a very popular model, mainly bought by government agencies and landscapers that need the offroad capability.';

'>>27635289
>>27635296
They don't look like good comfy family vehicles though
>>27635595
It's a rebadged Ford Ranger anon. Built by Ford too.';

'>>27634040
>why dont europeans make a full size, body on frame truck?
Because those trucks are only a way for manufacturers to bypass car legislation. That loophole doesn't exist in Europe.';

'>>27635595
Also not full size

I think I know the answer to OP. A lot of Europeans are illiterate.';

'>>27634040
Germans designed the Universal Mogger';

'>>27635289
the wheels on that are smaller than what i have on my hatchback lmao.

captcha: NAAA';

'>>27635614
>Also not full size
What I really gather...
Is that "full size" means a net capacity of what... 5 tons? 6? 7?

Meanwhile Mercedes and Ivenco and quite a few other offer what is essentially 4-5ton trucks, but the reudced frame is only 2 tons, meaning 1,5 tons of cargo capacity.
Why?
Because B-class license goes up to 3,5 tons.
Light trucks(C1) opens up to twice the amount of stricter inspections for non commercial use, on top of what a ducking horrid mess it is to upgrade your drivers license outside of the Baltic and Slavic states.';

'>>27634040
It's a tough market to crack and would require billions of dollars on something that isn't a guarantee. Only Toyota has succeeded in doing so and it's taken decades, as even Nissan had to kill the Titan.';

'>>27634040
op, you should probably research the topic before you ask. just a little tip to keep in mind for future threads :)';

'>>27635646
It refers to the size of the vehicle. the amarok is the size of other mid size trucks, like the chevrolet colorado for example';

'>>27635682
>size of the vehicle
Yes. And size implies gross weight.
I know imported RAMs has to be cucked to B-type licenses(3,5ton gross), or be certified for C1 just to get 10ton gross + towing.';

'>>27635646
Colorado is mid size
Silverado is full size
Simple as';

'>>27635636
>less rolling resistance is... le bad';

'>>27635771
Sure, if your engine has half the cylinders';

'>>27634040
This is the closest thing they get to a decent pickup and it still gets mogged as they are cucked from the get go.';

'>>27634128
>of course farmers etc. still like them and do buy them
Farmers usually use tractors. And families generally have station wagons.';

'>>27634879
It can't at American standards.';

'>>27635771
you mean inadequate traction right?';

'Europeans make too much sense. This is a useful truck. American and Japanese pickups are built to appeal to the American consumer.';

'>>27634040

Question asked a million times . Why would European drive work vehicle as daily ? Trucks are work vehicles , only americans have such retarded idea of family/luxurious trucks .';

'>>27634040
>full size, body on frame truck
It's called a Unimog, anon.';

'>>27635595
>offroad capability
not with that wheelbase';

'>>27635289
>>27635296
>>27637709
/thread';

'>>27637742
Not really europoor. Pickups mog a lot of vehicles due to how cheap and modded they can become for most jobs. If you really want a dump bed then go for it. You are still gonna have a more comfortable, powerful, and reliable vehicle in the end compared to a transit.';

'>>27637771

Estate can do anything truck can , only its do it better . Mutt no one is interested in your cucktrucks';

'>>27637723
Is the alternator still mounted on the bottom of the engine? kek
>go through puddle
>oops charging systems fucked again';

'>>27637771
Looks comfy to me';

'>>27634040
1) Japs did them specifically for US market
2) Gas is expensive, no reason to haul around 3 tons of fat for your daily driving. When you need a work vehicle you get into pic related, which is way larger than any full sized murican trugg, and at the end of the day you come back to your reasonable personal car. And if you need really extreme truck activities you get an Unimog that mogs as the name implies everything the US ever made.';

'>>27637876
Looks meh';

'>>27637892
Kek basketball themed trucks for dindunuffins
Looks like ass';

'>>27636037
Yes. Tractors are made for more heavy duties, are more reliable and have less amount of computer modules than most cars & pickup trucks. Tractors more often dont have ablue/delfluid systems.';

'>>27637899
Huh? It’s just brown leather? Looks great in person and is supremely comfortable.';

'>>27637892

it looks not only bad but low quality materials';

'>>27637900
Anything over 60-65 hp has adblue systems iirc. Wouldn’t call them any more reliable than pickups.';

'>>27637955
>a random busrider thinks genuine leather is low quality.

I hate this board.';

'>>27637899
Lmao you can't make this shit up, American culture really is centered around niggers';

'>>27637976
>brown muttoid thinks all genuine leather is good
There's garbage leather like what Americans use and then there's Poltrona Frau that you can see in cars like the Alfa Romeo Giulia.';

'>>27637989
>he thinks the spics of Europe use much higher quality materials';

'Amerifats arguing why built for purpose european trucks are bad because not enough nba skin colored leather seats with massaging and no big tv for superbowl ads inside the cabin. Fucking die with your trucklet mentality rejecting actual work trucks and preferring luxury trucks that get shit on when you have any payload on the back. You put once anything in the ford bed and that gets cut if there is believing in chevy ads. Wtf are you supposed to do with such weak material for truck bed and that piece of paper is the best selling truck in usa baka.';

'>>27638007
Awwww little European is mad! Come back when your trucks make any power and don’t cost 70k for 150 hp. Meanwhile an American can buy a pickup truck and tow 35k behind him all day easily and in comfort. Even comes with a good 4x4 and more clearance!';

'>>27637723
>>27637805';

'>>27637995
>denial to cope with grief';

'>>27637976

leather looks at best meh . But I am talking about plastic , especially silver color . Did chinese made that plastic lol ?

Whole interior looks cheap imitation of luxury saloon . But that's pretty standard for american cars .';

'>>27637995
>In addition to designing seating for yachts, airplanes and helicopters, Poltrona Frau has designed leather interiors for automobiles since 1986, when Lancia asked the company to design and manufacture interiors for their new version 8.32 Thema model. Poltrona Frau has since made interiors from automotive companies ranging from Alfa Romeo, Audi, Bugatti, Lancia, Ferrari and Maserati to Mini, Fiat, Infiniti, Jaguar and Chrysler.
>In 2002 the company's leathersmiths created red leather seating and pillions for a special edition of the California model of noted Italian motorcycle manufacturer Moto Guzzi, in celebration of the company's 80th anniversary.
So basically if you want good interiors in America you buy a 300C and option it in Poltrona Frau "Foligno" leather. You have two choices, black or mocaccino.';

'>>27638157
American "taste" is terminally shit, just compare the Renault 25 to the Eagle Premier (it's Americanized version to appeal to that garbage market). Pic related is the 25 Baccara.';

'>>27638157
This piece of shit is the American version';

'>>27637721
>Unimog
That's something agricultural';

'>>27637884
So the real reason is being poor? Not really surprising.';

'>>27637483
Yup, gonna need all that traction on a paved road';

'>>27638431

>being poor

saying american who screams about have cheap american cars are . So why do u need cheap car ? Poor ? Can't afford expensive car muttpoor?';