'That's a whole lot of cars going nowhere';

'>>27635793
>>27635794
holy shit wtf?';

'>>27635793
>"GUYS NO WAIT DON'T BUY CHINESE SLOP IT EXPLODES"
>nobody buys chinese slop
>"HAHA THIS IS TOTALLY 'CAUSE NO ONE WANTS EVS"';

'>>27635793
>incentives stop
>no one wants to buy an EV anymore
B-but I thought that Chinese EVs would be everywhere! Don't tell me that everyone claiming they were seeing them were experiencing yellow buggy syndrome?';

'>>27635802
if the manufacturers can't produce a likeable commercially viable EV then that would most definitely mean that no one wants EVs. if they were a good product then it would sell.';

'>>27635806
>>incentives stop
is this just a sign of the West going broke from stupid spending policies and sanctions? or is it something else?';

'>>27635793
That's a side-effect of chinese perverted manufacturer incentives. If they can show CCP that their cars sell well, they get more aid. Doesen't matter if they themselves buy their own cars and let them rot.';

'>>27635813
For the most part it is Because of the Chinese. Dumbasses in the west thought that China would not try to use their vast minerals and loss leader practices (CCP paying companies the difference as to allow cars to be sold uber cheap) to make cheap EVs and take advantage of the EV push that was actually just trying to create and artificial Tesla-like jump in domestic brands. Also and partially due to Chinese EVs, but the limitations, low build quality, and ironic lack of innovation from EVs has caused them to be seen less favorably compared to hybrids as time goes one';

'>>27635793
>ICE manufacturer's nervous laughter intensifies';

'>>27635811
Except they have. I fucking hate Teslas but people are buying their cars.';

'>>27635828
so it sounds like, in large part, its a failure of EVs in quality dept., across the board really.
I mean yeah, Tesla EVs aint so great';

'>>27635838
the subject of the thread was chinese EVs so I didn't mention tesla.';

'>>27635859
...But then the point is that no one wants chinese cars, or chinese EVs. This is like saying that if nobody wants chinese pickups then people have stopped buying trucks and don't want them anymore.';

'>>27635859
>Lets talk about EVs
>But dont talk about Tesla';

'>>27635867
They're more a software company that just happens to put them in cars, tesla is more >>>/g/ay tier';

'Article says 3.4m cars move through a year and that the parking lots hold 130k.

Also the OP image is loading in china, not unsold vehicles in Europe.

TLDR nothing burger

If anything shows how cheap and efficient Chinese auto manufacturing and their ability to export has become.';

'>>27635866
I hate this site. you knew exactly what the fuck I meant but because I didn't specifically type it how you wanted then we have to kill a thread because of it. of course I meant the chinese shit. I replied to a comment mentioning chinese EVs that was replying to OP mentioning CHINESE EVs.';

'>>27635855
That is the big issue, tesla did the first initial innovation in the mid 2010s and from that pont the market didn't really innovate further. We were promised actual advancement and instead all we got was a model 3 but bigger. Quality is still bad, range is the same, charging is still too long and complicated for normies, nothing to address battery being drastically affected by climate, nothing to address cost of lithium batteries, nothing to address the possibility of lithium fires, and no country has a competent public charging system that isn't decorative at best. Meanwhile hybrids and PHEVs have leapfrogged in tech and continue to do so';

'>>27635880
Everything you wrote is incorrect.

The ability to be so consistently wrong makes me think you are intentionally posting strawmans for yourself or other people to tear apart with ease.';

'>>27635885
>"Y-YOU ARE WRONG"
>provides no proof
I hope the /o/ mod stops being a pussy faggot one day and just bans EVs until they can actually match hybrids';

'>>27635880
>b.but they PROMISED me!!!

Lol';

'why is china allowed to sell their cars abroad?
dont first world countries have rules and regulation that would keep that shit at bay?
or is this literally that being kept... at.... bay..?';

'>>27635902
This is why EVs are failing. EV fans do not want to innovate';

'>>27635880
Yes. no excuse for the lack of continued innovation. So far seems EVs in produciton priomarily just pump and dump as hard as they can on a lame half ass product they never optimized or perfected.
And another big thing, I think one thing the EV manufacturers and EV proponents have completlwey blown, is the atrocious lack of recharging infrastructure.
One simply has to look back to see how blindingly fast the Gasoline and deisel fuiels refilling station infrastruxctuire was establish at the time ICE vehicles were being made commonplace across the USA after the turn of the century. with a decade or two after the public becoiming owners of personal private automobiles, gas staions and the refueling infrastructure was developed and established nationwide, between earlky 1900s and say, 1930s, 1940s, we had fueling stations practically everywhere.

I realy dont see a campaign like that being doe for EV charging. Obviously what shoulf be establishged is home charging and chargign at places of work. I dont see that being pursued in any siginifcant or tangible.
.ewither the indistry or the govt needs to get ahold of this and figure out the proper standardization and make it available. its beyond pathetic.
but par for the course, cart before horse of the Greenies thinking and lack of planning';

'>>27635793
>>27635794
>>27635798
>>27635802
>>27635806
>>27635811
>>27635813
>>27635819
>>27635828
>>27635830
>>27635838
>>27635855
>>27635859
>>27635866
>>27635867
>>27635870
>>27635875
>>27635876
>>27635880
>>27635885
>>27635894
>>27635902
>>27635905
>>27635927
>>27635941
Euro EVs are basically Chinese EVs with different body kits. There's no difference between two. You can't make this shit up.';

'>>27635793
Wasn't there a recent thread from some poor anon who claimed that he's from Belgium and his employer basically forces him to lease an exploding vehicle?';

'Found it: >>27629623';

'>>27635793
The ocean is right there. Just drive in.';

'>>27635806
Not only that but they also slap 50% tariffs on Chinese EVs so they are not worth it.';

'>>27635838
"People" aren't buying them, companies are.
Rental car companies and corporate fleet sales are the majority of tesla buyers- when you get that fancy tech job that includes a company car, it's a tesla.
And there's all kinds of little ahit- members of congress get a $500 a month stipend to lease a vehicle- AOC leases a tesla for $499.
If you pay attention to the charts floating around, the majority are "new vehicle registrations", not "private sales".';

'EVs and hybrids are status symbols.';

'>>27635944
>pic
Isn't that just related to VW trying to get a foothold in China? Might be too late given how things have been going for other western companies there, but at least the Germans are very punctually a few years behind.';

'>>27638092
yeah low status lol';

'>>27635793
They are worse than normal cars in every single metric other than acceleration and it's illegal to floor them anyway, and every non braindead person knows that the only reason they are pushing them is so that the globohomo government can brick your car when you don't comply with homosexuality.';

'if there's a space problem they could just give the cars out for free. it's a win win for everyone. easy solution.';

'>>27635793
ICE cars in Cali aren't selling much faster...';

'>>27638338
they're outselling EVs 3 to 1 in california lol';

'>>27635793
I'll buy one for €2000. No? A diesel it is then';

'>>27635793
They cost as much as Teslas. Why would you buy a BYD made in China over a Tesla made in Germany?';

'Thats how cars are kept in stock anon.';

'>>27635793
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_zWFGOSD28

Blame European dealerships.

Chinese manufactures the car at $10k. BMW manufactures a similar EV at $40k. Both cars are sold at ~$50-60k at dealerships.

The Chinese EVs could be moved if they were sold at a lower price point, but dealerships want those high profit margins. They don't care about units sold, but the amount they're sold for. All those cars sitting at the lot are sold to dealerships, but not to consumers.

This doesn't affect Tesla, because they own their own stores. They can set whatever price they want to sell at. You ever notice that whenever Tesla announces a price drop, every other car brands follow? But they're never the ones who initiate first, and it's always Tesla? Same is happening in the US. When Tesla drops, everybody else follows. Ford ends up losing $100k per EV sold. And the $7500 government subsidy doesn't cover the entire loss per vehicle sold.';

'>>27638771
lol dude no one cares';

'>>27638785
Facts don’t care about your feelings chuddie';

'They let them sit there instead of selling them more accordingly what they paid for them. Fuck western capitalistic rats';

'>>27635793
>promive cheap EVs for plebs in yurop
>they are actually more expensive than tesla and on par with european brands
huh, so weird why nobody buys them';

'>>27637850
it's 10%
>>27638098
vw has massive foothold in china, through their joint ventures with SAIC and FAW. Many chinese even think VW is their local brand since it has been pressent in China since 1970ies';

'>>27640051
Do they have any presence in the Chinese EV market?
VW's own EVs haven't been all that exciting, weighing noticeably more than most competitors and not really performing any better either. I think they were using older battery tech from LG at least at some point; they might even get better stuff from China now.';

'>>27640052
yes they have, VW id3 is selling quite well there and they have id6 there too. Id3 in china costs around 20k euros. Ofc byd and tesla sell way more';

'>>27635905
They do, problem is that aslo china goes around with politicians and offers them a shinny brefcase with money inside so they can ese up chinese EV's in their markets as well as to flood national ports with their shitty cars and fuck off leaving the problem to the markets to deal with, already happend in Mexico';

'>>27635944
>You can't make this shit up
but you just did';