'Y'know, I've always wondered. How come dogs come in so many sizes?
You go from something as tiny as a pom to something as huge as a great dane, and everything in between.
It's fascinating, isn't it?';

'>>4772919
>Don't have to. Your whore mother won't leave me alone.

>Lost the argument
>Has to resort to personal insults
A classic.';

'>>4772927
>inb4 heathers owner has a meltdown because somebody trained a dog differently than they did';

'OP still shilling animal abusers

Sure, if your dog is dangerous, applying force is more important than their feelings. You need to stop the danger immediately. If they hurt someone else, they will be put down. lose/lose. It's not like you are going to make them worse.

But if you're hurting a normal dog, you're not achieving anything. A training method doesn't have to work for both normal and dangerous dogs. Chances are, if it does, it also makes your normal dog more dangerous by introducing fear aggression, or obliterates their personality because you conditioned them with copious amounts of
PAIN AND FEAR
ALSO KNOWN AS ABUSE
Obliterating a personality might be ok if the personality would result in them being killed, but it's a different situation.

Want to know how stupid OP's troll post is? Milan dangled a dog from a prong collar after kicking it in the leg to provoke reactivity. Leash reactive dogs are not dangerous dogs, YET, but applying pain and fear CAN MAKE THEM DANGEROUS OFF LEASH just as quickly as never properly solving the problem does.

>>4772932
I'm not heathers owner. Post your basset.';

'>>4772934
and I’m not OP yet still here we are.';

'>>4772934
force-free trainers live in a world where they think every dog is a retriever/doodle/husky that has never been abused and was socialized as a puppy. AKA the white suburbs.

"balanced" trainers shamefully live in a similar world where that is most dogs, but not all dogs. that's why they try and tone down their image by saying "balanced training", "training tool", and "correction" to make hurting dogs sound like something else on the surface. deep inside their mind, they think most dogs are fake dogs, worse dogs, and prefer dangerous breeds like malinois and pitbulls, hence their dedication to using pain and fear in training.

both people are stupid. you will never train a game bred pitbull even though purely positive training has been academically proven to be the best, because the academics studied normal dogs like labs, not game bred pitbulls. but if you train a lab like a game bred pitbull it's going to become more likely to bite people and totally lose any semblance of personality because the basis of all of its behavior, down to not running away, is not wanting to be hurt by its owner again.';

'>Oh no! Other people are getting pissed off about a week long argument that I've been perpetuating! Let's just blame it all on one person I'm totally not obsessed with!

>>4772932
>>4772931
This is what a classic meltdown looks like. I WILL be showing this to your mother. She will be very unhappy with your behavior.';

'>>4772940
Like I said, you're a schizo.';

'>>4772940
Why is he so obsessed with heathers owner? 2 threads ago they were talking about being in the same telegram?';

'>>4772934
You still ignore that leashes and collars are also methods of applying force.';

'>>4772944
Not a single clue. Heather must have struck a nerve with the poor guy, and now she is living rent free in his tiny brain. At least she is a quiet husky, right?

>>4772943
Nice edit. I'm correct simply because I stated it. You? You're having an extreme meltdown, and everyone expects you to be doing devious things to "prove" your "point" that you have utterly failed to do over thousands of words and many many days. Lol.';

'>>4772949
>many many days
Again, speaking about the wrong person. But there is no point arguing with an idiot.';

'>>4772947
>How dare you tell me not to pop a prong collar when that's also applying a force, technically, according to a physics textbook
The difference is leash pressure causes no discomfort and is trained to control direction changes by positive reinforcement and "balanced training corrections" is newspeak for causing a dog noticeable pain to halt its behavior.

E-collars make the difference obvious. You can use a low setting as the equivalent of a verbal command learned through positive reinforcement, or you can turn it up and hurt your dog. But you shouldn't, unless your dog is legitimately dangerous and hurting them is the only way to stop them from hurting someone else and being put down.';

'>>4772952
>ad hominem

I accept your concession. :)';

'>>4772940
>anyafag false flags as anybody
>must be that person
Unironically kys and post dog.';

'>>4772927
This general has brain damage.';

'>>4772959
>Integrity: 0
>Accusations: meaningless

Imagine even.';

'>>4772953
>>4772934
>>4772938
These posts are sufficiently logical by human standards. It is immediately apparent that because dogs are highly complex animals, training programs should be tailored to the individual animal to maximize desirable behavior at minimal risk to the animal and others, resulting in the most favorable long term results. As difficult and dangerous dogs carry a higher level of risk, so too must the methods used to train them in order to mediate the danger involved. As the saying goes, do not bring a knife to a gun fight.

However, excessively harsh methods may damage a psyche with gentler tendencies if applied for innocent transgressions of social norms such as counter surfing and stopping to sniff on a walk. Or as the saying would go, do not bring a russian drill sergeant to a preschool.

>>4772927
This post is not logical. Because not all dogs are difficult, not all training methods need to work on difficult dogs. It is trivial to learn, remember, and apply more than one technique, just as different foods require different preparation procedures, and different machines require different maintenance schedules of varying cost and complexity.

I welcome any logical rebuttal to this conclusion.';

'Is it logical to feed raw as well? I think not. The most common argument for raw food is that raw food contains more nutrition, but it also contains foodborne illnesses, which can pass from pets to their owners via small fecal particles (demonstrated by the association between outdoor cats and their owners getting toxoplasmosis).
It is also possible to cook food without destroying nutrients, but still destroying common parasites, bacteria and viruses. Pressure cooking, slow cooking, and sous vide are all known to preserve the majority of the nutrients in food while improving digestibility and significantly reducing the risk of foodborne illness. To date, no dog has died of malnutrition because their food was cooked.

Is it logical to avoid advice sponsored by dog food companies? While there is a conflict of interest, that does not necessarily mean that advice given out by dog food manufacturers should be ignored. It only requires a more thorough vetting process to ensure it is not directly contradicted by neutral sources. And do not individuals with a vested interest in commercial products recommend raw feeding? There are more ways to profit from a sale than being the one producing the product, whether it is raw or kibble. Many proponents of raw diets even sell a book containing their recommended recipes.';

'is Heather's owner a ζ';

'Now, for a logical analysis of the gear recommendations

>Regular use: regular dog collar, chain collar, martingale collar
Whether or not it is logical to use any of these depends on the dog in question. There is insufficient data to come to any conclusion.

>Training: prong collar, gentle leader
Likewise, without more information on the dog in question, the advisability of these products is uncertain. These may harm some dogs, and help others. A dog that lunges may be at unusually high risk, as the collar is there to train them to stop lunging, but at the same time, lunging while in the collar may cause injury.

>AVOID: e-collars
This, however, is plainly illogical, as E-collars can provide consistent stimulus at a great distance, ranging from a gentle sensation to pain depending on the dog's needs. There is no known reason to avoid these tools in general. They are widely used by ordinary pet owners, military dog trainers, and working sheep herders. They are, so to speak, as close as dogs can come to receiving a text message from their owner.
>dog harnesses
This is also illogical. "Harnesses" is a broad category of equipment. Some are known to be dysfunctional devices that are likely to cause injury. Others are a safe way to restrain a dog without causing harm. Although they do not function as aversives, the technique known as "leash pressure" can still be used, and they may even be ideal if hiking with your dog through terrain where falling is a possibility. It is clearly apparent that dangling a dog from any form of collar is not advisable, but fall-safe harnesses do exist.';

'More important question than this entire argument:

Do you think he looks good in purple?';

'>>4772992
While purpose was historically associated with royalty, it is currently associated with homosexuality. I recommend re-decorating your animal.';

'>>4772992
Blue!';

'>>4772994
Saying purple is gay is almost worse than saying the rainbow is gay! So what if my dog is BIPOC friendly? (He isnt)';

'>>4772999
Blue is the classic. I didn't put this one on him, and was pondering the combo.';

'How can anyone read this thread and not understand that anyafag/z’s are in here trolling and have been for a couple weeks now…';

'>>4772992
>>4773000
would look better under my truck tire';

'>>4773001
>>4772987
>>4773006
prong collar sadist showing his true colors

>>4773004
flannel is the farm boy classic. flannel!';

'>>4773013
We correct 'phile to 'sadist for a reason pardner';

'I will unrepentantly show normie tier love for my dog, and there's nothing you can do about it! Sorry if such things anger you! NOT! Haha!!

>>4773010
That could be really good.';

'>>4773017
Because psychologists are you know whats and they won't let us';

'Heathens. Repent.';

'>ctrl+f heather
>5 results
explain

>>4773004
red.';

'>>4773016
Can you link me material for scentwork?';

'>>4773028
Tldr schizophrenics and zoosadists want to be with your dog.';

'>>4773033
the only person who was ever close with zoosadists is heatherfag himself, he was in the telegram.
Why would you ever join Anyafag's zoosadist telegram?';

'>>4773034
I made the telegram and invited dalton's owner and [redacted].

Then furfags came in, I decided it was stupid, and we left it. But not before trying to skim some actionable info from anyafag, which mostly failed. It's kind of hard to track down a homeless druggie.';

'>>4773034
please study up on /dog/lore before posting this bullshit. He has ptsd from the first great zoo war when the noble huskyking single handedly killed eevees owner so now he dislikes aussies.';

'>>4773043
Holy schizo babble. Who dislikes aussies? I like aussies.

Didn't eevees owner just get told to stop posting his moms dog on 4chan';

'>>4773043
i dont need lore, i have a picture that shows the owner was Anyafag';

'>>4773046
Ahem, you’re ruining the bark Buddy lore…';

'>>4773048
There were two, and in one of them I handed admin to some other guy, i forget who, conspiracy theory killed';

'>>4773030
I just followed this video exactly, and it worked great as a starting point. Teaching a marker command makes things really easy. If you're thinking of doing things more seriously you will need to do much more extensive training and refinement of their scenting behavior, but this is a good start. You can use essentially the same technique, but with different smells and they'll keep a catalogue in their head. It's really really cool. You can scent a ball or other fetch toy and they will NEVER lose it ever again as long as you keep it scented hah.

https://youtu.be/-fwPCf4b9pE?si=wyUBNo5K1nVnCG_a';

'>>4773049
The barkbuddies existed all the way back then?';

'>>4773057
Proto-bark budies';

'>>4773055
>dog hair on negative
ITS EVERYWHERE';

'>>4773061
Teeth looking frail. Look into more bones, organs and possibly some vegetables or supplements.';

'>>4773059
Ahhh. Gotcha. Sometimes it feels like I got my dog a few years too late for /dog/ there were so many cool and cute dogs back in the day. :(

On the other hand I do believe it was also the perfect time...';

'>>4773059
So you've always been a faggot, explains a lot.';

'>>4773065
The Vet(tm) says she has excellent teeth with minimal tarter for a senior dog. They've gotten even cleaner since then since I scrub them off every so often. No toothbrush, just finger and fingernail, she trusts it more I guess.

She can't have bones though, there's a chipped molar on her right side that's been there since before I got her. It hasn't progressed but I don't want her to make it worse.';

'>>4773061
Onions face saved for future reference';

'>>4773061
>mfw I don't notice there's doghair on my artisanally crafted /fgt/ post.';

'All this dog training talk, but no mention of the genetic temperament differences between breeds that dictate different training styles between breeds and then the individual temperament of the dog combined with that dogs life experiences. A dog with a very resilient character may tolerate or even need a heavier hand in training, while a dog that is naturally nervous may shut down just from the tone of voice they're being spoken to with. Add to that any positive experience like being raised from puppyhood with care and fair consistency, vs a rough up bringing without consistency and a lack of trust building.

Somewhat relevant webm of working on a fear of heights by playing fetch across a short bridge that she was deathly afraid to walk on previously';

'>>4773079
Pretty much "train the dog in front of you" not "train the dog on youtube because there must be one true method you can stan on le chan"';

'>>4773079
Based nuanced observation.';

'>>4773079
Why is this dog so fearful? Did the puppy smell?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TQu23RFAhRE';

'>>4773098
Poor socialization';

'>>4772927
>2 hour old thread
>over 50 posts
This place really is the /dbs/ of /an/';

'Why are belgian malinois so much better at jumping than other dogs?';

'>>4773103
bejitabro btw';

'>>4773106
Cuz they belgian';

'>>4772934
>PAIN AND FEAR
>ALSO KNOWN AS ABUSE
People think discipline is cruel. That’s why society is crumbling.';

'>>4773082
Yeah, if you are going to learn from YouTube, try to learn from trainers with dogs the most similar to yours as far as temperament and with techniques you have access to. One of the biggest resources is exposing a new dog to other highly trained dogs, the dogs learn from each other by watching and copying, but most first time dog owners don't have access to dogs like that other than being lucky with a family or neighbors dog being trained.
>>4773083
I try, in this world there's not much that's black and white.
>>4773098
Hard to say, bully type breeds are quite emotionally sensitive, which is why people like them, even though they have a low threshold for violence
>>4773106
They've got a very athletic build with a good size for jumping, too heavy and a dog's joints won't last, plus they're very high drive dogs and will train all day if you want them to. A husky probably has similar genetic potential as far as athleticism, but without the drive necessary for that kind of work. While many German shepherds have the drive, they can sometimes be too bulky. My pup has incredible drive, is still lean enough and athletic she loves jumping';

'>>4773124
Dogs are not people

You can support the police beating the shit out of criminals, until you stop supporting what the police think is crime, and be against hurting dogs as the default method, all at the same time. It's not a directionbrain issue but hey this is an election year on 4chan';

'>>4773130
And who is the boogeyman trainer punching dogs as their default training method?';

'>>4773103
>>4773107
audible Kek';

'>>4773130
>Dogs are not people
Exactly, and some dogs are bred as fighting dogs and expect and even like their owners and other dogs to be rough with them, now you are starting to get it';

'>>4773138
>Some dogs are
Some dogs are not.

And some training methods, even for the dogs that are, are totally useless compared to the tools we have to do. And some "tools" are just retarded period. Like front clip harnesses and head halters. Those are what tryhard geriatrics use to overpower dogs they probably shouldn't have and don't know how to train properly. Or prong collars, which might have one use in pulling a poorly trained k9 off a suspect but are otherwise just a shittier e-collar.

>>4773136
That must be the mexican manlet that kicked a dog to make it more reactive and then dangled it from a prong collar';

'>>4773148
prongs are also for dog fighters. they can't afford e-collars, and when you have two dogs bred to be abominations, something that won't respond to having half its face removed won't respond to a tazer on its neck.

so no one important desu, 99% of users are in it for the image and "owning the libs" (everyone smarter than them)';

'>>4773148
Ecollar fag is for punishment as long as it's not a prong. Actually a schizo';

'I just got my opportunity harness from ray allen. What can I expect? What leash should I pair it with? Hound and Husky owner advice greatly appreciated!';

'>>4773153
A shitty enough dog might need actual, not technical, punishment, to protect something more important. That's true.

But a prong is a shitty punishment method because it's unreliable, requires a physical connection to the dog, and a dog that is bad enough to need a prong can go ahead and send itself to the vet, potentially ruining your training. If punishment is needed, it's needed wherever the dog is, at the level the dog needs it. That's why every K9 being trained by someone who does not have an appreciable amount of lead in their system is on E-collars now.

>>4773155
Harnesses with a strap across the front restrict shoulder movement and predispose dogs to injury. There's a reason dogs in the IWPA wear harnesses that go around, not straight across the shoulders. It's so they don't hurt themselves. Walking a dog in a shit harness is worse than just using a $10 flat collar.';

'>>4773161
>Harnesses with a strap across the front restrict shoulder movement
That’s the point

>and predispose dogs to injury
More and source?

>IWPA
The reason is that they’re weight pulling. I’m not a weight to be pulled around.

>Walking a dog in a shit harness is worse than just using a $10 flat collar.
Obvious troll post.';

'>>4773163
>That's the point
How about you actually train your dog instead of fucking up their joints?';

'>>4773173
My dog is trained retard, why don’t you post your own dog in a heel or loose leash walk?';

'>>4773176
>guess who
:o';

'Any protection dog companies you guys recommend?';

'>>4773184
Personal protection dogs are costly and carry a huge liability risk (insurance provider is a must).';

'>>4773161
Correct on all counts
https://www.rosenbergchiropracticclinic.ca/post/dog-harnesses-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly#:~:text=These%20harnesses%20sit%20on%20top,%2C%20arthritis%2C%20inflammation%20and%20bursitis.

>>4773176
When shitty dog apparel comes up there’s only one consistent factor…';

'>basset boy realized he could have got a racism ban
Is it true you bought a prong and never used it because you think giving out shit advice is funny trolling?';

'>>4773195
He probably did. They're e-collars for poor people, so they're just $15.

I should probably start my dog on gentle e-collar training just to trigger him';

'>>4773161
>>4773163
Or you could just not sperg out and avoid all harnesses';

'>>4773161
>exists
Argument over';

'>>4773176
>ask professional 4chan trainers to do anything proving their skill
>walls-of-text.jpg
Many such cases. Enjoy footage of our daily off leash walk.';

'>>4773209
>if you think cliff diving is dangerous, avoid all forms of air travel
brilliant logic';

'>>4772927
Say to avoid harnesses
>>4772990
Get BTFO
>>4773155
Bring up a harness you know is known to be supbar
>>4773161
Get BTFO
>>4773209
>Or you could just not sperg out and avoid all harnesses
>>4773216
Get BTFO

some hobby
his next post will be an exploding chinese ecollar with only one setting';

'>troll argues with himself: the thread
Must be fun pretending to be retarded';

'>>4773212
is that an e-collar tho';

'>>4773229
You tried to play but you didn't play your cards right.
You probably need to take a break from the internet.';

'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PENCKF_bu60';

'>>4773248
ctrl+shift+i
mspaint
lol

>>4773249
there are better trainers to learn how to fix ruined/mentally ill dogs from
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw3glB4qQPY
this man tortured a dog until it nearly passed out to "dominate" it. even youtube tryhards are not as bad as the sizzling manlet
you know, his "difficult" pitbull he "trained" killed queen latifa's dog and they settled out of court so he could keep his career';

'>>4773242';

'>>4773249
Dont even link this animal abusing halfwit';

'>>4773248
Curious, does he think you’re me?';

'>>4773250
>there are better trainers to learn how to fix ruined/mentally ill dogs from
like who? jkvl jkvl?';

'>>4773258
He does
He's been on a rant about heather's owner and a basset or something, just fully unhinged.
>>4773255
>one of the top dog trainers in the world';

'>>4773262
Literally anyone else

There are no perfect dog trainers, but sizzly manlet is among the worst.

>>4773264
>One of the top dog-wrangling showmen in the world
>kicked a dog in the leg, dangled it from a prong collar, saying "le wolf le wolf", later his "trained" dogs bit a girl and killed a dog
Sure';

'>>4773264
Who’s been on a rant about heathers owner?';

'>>4773269
Some retard that keeps shilling dog abuse and prong collars because "if it doesn't work with aggressive dogs it doesn't work"

It might be a telegram raid.';

'>>4773271
Do you think they own any dogs themselves?';

'>>4773269';

'>>4773278
Cesar Milan';

'>>4773278
does it matter if there are one, two, or three toxoheads/zoosadists shilling animal abuse for a reaction, putting retarded shit like this in the OP
>AVOID: "positive-only" snake-oil salespeople, anyone who critiques other trainers without video proof of them working with difficult dogs (examples: Emily Larlham, Zak George)
>NUTRITION: Raw
>AVOID: e-collars, dog harnesses
Wrong is wrong, whoever says it.

But there are ~7 people who already know who has a habit of deleting their own posts and really likes caesar, prongs, and "the dog daddy"';

'>>4773281
Huh? I've been ignoring all this retarded arguing...

I made the best contribution to this entire thread anyways. Please look at this high tier content and discussion I generated with extreme ease. >>4772992';

'Jannies nuke the thread already. These zoosadists are retarded.';

'>>4773284';

'IM NOT EVEN TRYING YET.

>>4773286
Lol.';

'>>4773055
Thanks! What’s your marker. I use NICE! for the miniature bloodhound and YES! for the large border collie.';

'First time I ever snapped my fingers for a release command. Notice how he was looking back to see if he understood correctly. If I used my normal command of "HUP!" he would have been 100% sure of himself. Good boy.

>>4773310
I use yes! also.
For scentwork you can just use any old essential oils you may have, but the akc scentwork competitions use 4 specific ones. Anise, clove, birch, and cypress. I just use a q-tip with a couple drops on it and wipe it in a few different spots. Sometimes up to 10 different places!
You can start with a little tin with holes in it that you place a scented q-tip in as well. It's a little easier to start off that way.';

'>>4773283
im sorry but
why dont you make a thread before they do it?';

'My dog just wants to drag me to his favourite room and make me watch him chew his favourite toy
I try to get him to play with his other toys and he doesn't care';

'I really need help getting this puppy to stop biting, it seems like he's getting worse
it's playful but my hands and arms are all cut up, he isn't cuddly at all
I've been saying no, I've been redirecting, I've been putting him in time out. He just doesn't get it';

'>>4773362
Have you been autism screeching';

'>>4773289
Did he learn "other paw" or what it is on his own?';

'>>4773365
I can't do such a thing, and I doubt it would have any affect at all
humans can't squeal the same way dogs do';

'>>4773377
Autism screech. Do it.

>reeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE';

'>>4773351
I know how that is, mine will bring me a chew toy so I can hold it for her while she chews
>>4773362
I dealt with a lot of puppy biting, it was uncomfortable, came with the territory getting a dog with lots of genetic propensity for police work. She can be plenty gentle these days, but for a long time it was like cuddling with barbed wire.';

'>>4773375
He basically figured it out on his own. I would ask for paw 1 then after I would tap on paw 2. He would do paw 1 again then I'd say no, and eventually he tried with other paw and got his treat.';

'>>4773385
Oh

I just taught mine "paw" and when I said "other paw" they automatically did it, like they knew english, or deductive reasoning';

'>>4773392
Impressive. You should try some cool things like have him put all his toys away in a box, or clean up for you. Naming toys and having him grab the one you want is also a cool one.';

'>>4773126
I felt like I was going crazy watching all the other training videos and all they did was feed them copious amounts of treats and didn't solve the problem.';

'>>4773362
What breed?
You are not a dog. A dog biting or nipping at you is not okay.
The puppy needs to be physically corrected every time.
Also, he probably needs to meet other dogs so that he can be taught what is and isn't okay when playing and unload all the built up energy he has.';

'Worst general on the board no contest';

'Shtick yum';

'Slice of life, watching TV with an attention hungry pup.';

'>>4773631
based comfy';

'Not even how I type.';

'>Gets belly rub
>Makes this face';

'>>4773662
The people that are looking for any excuse to accuse others are usually the guilty ones. It's a real sort of mental illness.';

'I really dislike people who type like
Because they took the reddit spacing meme seriously
or something';

'>>4773670
Last playdate he tried pissing on both the dogs he was hanging out with.';

'>>4773701
Leo? More like Chad, lol.';

'>>4773701
only knew one dog who did this and it was a crusty mop dog';

'>pet husky';

'>>4773727
>peer husky
anyways
https://www.123rf.com/profile_iridi';

'>>4773728
i meant pet as petting
>>4773732
kys';

'>>4773732
Based';

'Aussie Trot';

'>>4773752
>POV
>you just ate a turd while your owner wasn't watching';

'>>4773701
Dalton took a shit on a geriatric pug if it makes you feel better lmao.';

'my labrador just turned 16! dispite looking like a fucking skeleton he seems pretty happy, eats a lot, healthy poops, he is on arthritis meds so still enjoys extremely short walks... but my god do I get a lot of comments from passes by when walking him 'is he OK?'';

'>>4773809
thank you skeleton';

'Is that real?';

'>>4773834
nope, Chuck Testa';

'>>4773809
Holy shit does he have cancer

Feed him something holy fuck. One infection and he's dead. Even if "lean dogs live longer" they still need fat and muscle reserves.';

'>>4773365
In a dog with high bite/prey drive that shit literally just makes them enjoy biting you even more lol';

'>>4773765
Wow. Way to show me up..';

'>>4773477
just figuring this out?';

'>>4773809
Happy whelp day!';

'>>4773855
Yeah, if they're also retarded.';

'>>4773670
>treat-me-like-white-tees.jpg';

'>almost got mauled by roaming bull terrier and a cut terrier today
>thwarted by standing my ground and making hard eye contact with the dogs
Holy shit I hate America.';

'>>4773851
he eats more or less the same as he ate 10 years ago in volume, it's just that his muscles have all wasted away due to old age';

'>>4773926
What do you mean he’s alwayd eaten the same? The same amount of food in cups or in calories?';

'>>4773942
food in cups';

'>>4773950
Oh, you fucking retard.';

'Dogs are truly the anti-hikki animal.
>Forced to socialize dog so it isn't fearful and aggressive so I go out more
>Dog makes people talk to me because she's cute
>Met my neighbors after 2 years and invited them over to a BBQ because of dog
>Play less video games because I spend most of that time playing with and training dog';

'>>4773956
Hows your weight doing?';

'My little girl just did her first nonstop mile today. Probably keep her on one mile intervals 3x a day eventually. She's been working her way up to this point, and honestly probably has been ready, but I'm not wanting to push to much because of age. One mile nonstop, off leash, and did excellent.
>"this should tire her out"
>"nope"
The amount of endurance these dogs have is insane.';

'>>4773966
Yeah, try cutting back to 2 walks per day for a week and see if she’s still energetic. Sometimes you can condition a dog to expect more exercise if you overdo it.';

'>>4773955
wat';

'>>4773971
>cutting back
We've been holding her back. One mile nonstop was the goal and she hit it today no problem. Eventually she'll be doing three miles a day, one mile intervals, three times a day.';

'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnYLd9kUYYA';

'>>4773977
>>4773966
Also, her coaching instinct is there. She's a very alert lead.';

'>>4773890
>t. retard whose never had a working line dog';

'worst general by far due to positive only fags and trannies scared of purebred dogs';

'>>4773960
The same I think, but I'm just kinda skinnyfat. I was doing training to strengthen my core and back but ended up throwing my back out anyway right before I got my puppy so lack of sleep from both potty training and back pain hasn't been awesome. Both are getting better with time! All the short, frequent walks I'm doing (plus PT) are good for my back. She doesn't require a crazy amount of play time, just a lot of attention. She has also forced me to have a normie sleep schedule.';

'Is his collar too tight or is he just fluffy?';

'>>4774007
2 fingers should fit between collar and neck.

>>4774005
I hope your day gets better. :)';

'She's stealing clothes out of my hamper for attention now.';

'My dog is a huge pain in the ass on walks. She often just flops down on the ground and refuses to move. She does this literally every block. How can I address this? How can I make her more cooperative on walks?';

'>fresh out of shower
>dog insists on licking my moist shins
What’s this phenomena?';

'>>4774069
My dog does the same desu. They just like the water I guess';

'>>4774065
Jog instead.';

'>>4774005
not getting enough attention kid?';

'I was training my dog to be calm around reactive dogs. We passed by their house and made progress before their owners put them back in. I made their dogs bark for about 20 minutes. Will they confront me next time?';

'>>4774075
I do jog and she'll flop down. It's dangerous because I feel like I'll break her neck or break my ankle.';

'Is it ethical to breed my dog?';

'>>4774101
Depends on a variety of factors.';

'I picked my dog up in June from the Chicago pound. I saw 3 dogs, all three jumped up. I gave a knee every time. The volunteer didn't like it and suggested I do the dodge method instead. The dogs kept jumping on her, but stopped jumping on me.';

'>>4774144
Dodging makes the dog think you are playing with them';

'>>4774101
dog lover moment';

'He loves to lay down and watch the ducklings we hatched recently. It's so unbelievably cute.

Always supervised because of the heat lamp...';

'Can I give my puppy some beef fat trimmings as a treat? Searches say it can cause pancreatitis and obesity but I assume this is if they are regularly eating large amounts. If it's fine, about how much? My pup is 4 months and 30lbs, I have 1.4 oz of fat trimmings.';

'>>4774491
Only very high quality grass fed and in small amounts.';

'How do I get my dog to stop pulling to greet dogs? He's totally fixated on them and ignores treats.';

'>>4774499
Give the treats before he is fully fixated';

'>>4774497
It is high quality local grassfed. What would you consider a small amount for a 30 lb (quickly growing) pup?';

'>>4774505
I've been rewarding down-stays and eye contact with me during these periods of obsession/excitement already.';

'>>4774510
10% of their daily calories.';

'>>4774511
Keep going but also consider your dog might suffer from mental retardation and benefit from verbal corrections or light e-collar use (nut only if they are mentally retarded, e-collars are typically reserved for dogs doing very primal dog things like chasing prey)';

'>>4774515
He's gotten better, the only thing is sometimes I need to force him down by pushing his leash down. After a few times of doing that, the motion sticks. What are your thoughts? The thing that triggers the obsession is when the dogs make noises (growling or barking). He starts whimpering and pulling. They're reactive dogs and I feel like they're rubbing off on him.';

'>>4774499
>How do I get my dog to stop pulling to greet dogs?
Say leave it loudly and with confidence. Grab him by his collar and walk him backwards a few steps while you stare at him (this is a sign of human dominance)';

'>>4774533
He's not being dominant towards me. He's very submissive towards me in fact. He's just excited and he's a friendly boy.';

'>>4774533
Dominance doesn't work worth a fuck because it doesn't exist. Dogs know humans aren't dogs. Great way to start a play-fight with your dog or just totally break your bond with them depending on their personality and never receive affection again ("dominance" fags also think that receiving affection from a dog is being "dominated" because they have tiny pps and are essentially the dog owner described in HP Lovecraft's essay)

>>4774539
Halt, reward, redirect, reward.
If you are not successfully halting, work on halting from every distance until it is consistent.

If you do not reward with the halt it becomes an irritant and makes the dog more irate.';

'>>4774542
Eh, dominance exists. Call it whatever you want assertiveness iWhat exactly do What do you mean by halt? Also my dog chains together these behaviors as one big reward cycle. The halt just becomes a part of the reward for him therefore engaging in fixation results in treats.';

'she’s sick with a parasite (vet visit soon) and keeps farting on me nonstop in her sleep. the sour, heinous smell.

but it’s not like i can move. just look at her';

'>>4774200
this made my shit day a little better';

'>>4774547
Dominance exists
Between dogs.
It's also entirely separate from aggression. There exist dominant, non-aggressive dogs.

It has nothing to do with humans. Dominance fags accidentally into operant conditioning and ascribe their limited success to low IQ preconceptions about getting "respect" from a dog - the real motivation is they dont get respect anywhere else.

>As one big reward cycle
That means you're not halting the behavior and didn't train the halt separately like you should have. Does he even have a proper leave-it command? Leave it needs to work for everything. The behavior needs to stop, then they are rewarded, and it does not re-start or it has to stop again. Don't be afraid to shout or apply sudden but non-injurious leash pressure.';

'>>4774547
Autocorrect spazz.

What do you mean? By halt?

How do you halt a fixation?

My dog is very smart and chains together multiple actions easily. I'm afraid halting and redirecting will only lead to him associating his fixation behavior with more food. Plus I've been rewarding good leash manners for years at this point. The fixation supersedes his positive reinforcement relationship with the leash.';

'>>4774550
He has a perfect leave it, I didn't know that's what you meant by halt.

Also see: >>4774551';

'>>4774554
If he doesn't leave it for another dog, he doesn't have a perfect leave it, now does he? Likewise, you can't say your dog can heel, if they won't heel if they see a rabbit.

He should be leaving it with and without rewards and leaving it left before you start doing anything else. Do not be afraid to surprise your dog and make them a little uncomfortable, but don't hurt them or they might become reactive. Don't fuck up when they might associate something with dogs or people.';

'>>4774557
Ok, I'll try to leave it today instead. I'll keep you posted.';

'>>4774559
Remember to keep your compulsions relatively gentle and just have patience, because a lot of people who say more aggressive methods work mistake psychological damage for submissive and 'being well trained'

Minor leash tugging and saying no are about all a dog should have to deal with unless they are a danger to others.';

'>>4774564
Cringe';

'>>4774559
The other major concern with godly R+ training (and triggering wannabe-manly soibois with it) is escalation

You can't train, or even demand, a complex behavior too early on without first reinforcing a simpler one, which brings you to something you should have already been doing:
Focused walks. The dog already needs to be in an obedience state of mind when on a leash, which keeps them attentive and ready to work when things get more complex.';

'>>4774093
Update: improvements! He barely pulled at all this time and only whimpered.';

'>>4774571
>>4774564

FF stuff doesn't work on dogs with medium-high prey drive. You need a wider array of operant conditioning like positive punishment. I use a mix of R+, R-, and P+ because it's proven time and time again to work.

Learned helplessness isn't psychologically damaging unless you're a snowflake. Your highly structured hot dog routine goes out the window when your dog is over the threshold.

Balanced trainers seek to keep training at the threshold to yield improvements. The “other” way doesn't exist because thresholds are dynamic. You can manage your environment and make it static by entirely avoiding threshold but that doesn't solve the problems.

The positive effects of positive reinforcement and negative reinforcement are negated by FF/LIMA people crapping on other trainers with their narcissistic god complexes.

Train the dog in front of you. Not on YouTube.';

'>>4774624
Ahahaha no.
>BUT THE RESULTS ARE FASTER!
With consequences.
>LE SNOWFLAKE
Cool it with the attempts at emotionally loaded language
>"Balanced"
The term is abusive.';

'>>4774624
tldr reddit spacing
read this image again >>4774564
fast results are not necessarily good results. also, your need to call training with punishment "balanced" is kinda sad ngl. just call it what it is. punishment.';

'>>4774662
>Negative reinforcement and positive punishment are psychological abuse
Source?';

'>>4774676
Zak George, someone who has never trained an aggressive dog';

'https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7743949/

Does training method matter? Evidence for the negative impact of aversive-based methods on companion dog welfare

Dog training methods range broadly from those using mostly positive punishment and negative reinforcement (aversive-based) to those using primarily positive reinforcement (reward-based). Although aversive-based training has been strongly criticized for negatively affecting dog welfare, there is no comprehensive research focusing on companion dogs and mainstream techniques, and most studies rely on owner-reported assessment of training methods and dog behavior. The aim of the present study was to evaluate the effects of aversive- and reward-based training methods on companion dog welfare within and outside the training context
...
During the welfare assessment in the training sessions, dogs from Group Aversive were observed more frequently in low behavioral states than dogs from Group Reward, and dogs from both Group Aversive and Group Mixed were observed more frequently in tense behavioral states and more frequently panting than dogs from Group Reward. Dogs from Group Aversive were also observed more frequently in tense and low behavioral states than dogs from Group Mixed. Tense and low body postures reflect states of distress and fear in dogs (e.g., [25]), while panting has been associated with acute stress in dogs (e.g., [9,26]). Additionally, overall, dogs from Group Aversive displayed stress-related behaviors more frequently than dogs from both Group Mixed and Group Reward, and dogs from Group Mixed displayed stress-related behaviors more frequently than dogs from Group Reward.

>>4774684
>ALL TRAINING METHODS HAVE TO WORK ON UNHINGED AGGRESSIVE DOGS!
Absolutely irrational.

The rational version of this ("Should punishment be used for an aggressive dog?") is also a moral question (do you solve a dangerous problem as fast as possible even if the solution is not ideal?), not a scientific one.';

'Dogs from Group Reward showed a tendency to learn the cognitive bias task faster than dogs from Group Mixed. Similar findings were observed previously by Rooney et al. (2011) [37], who found a positive correlation between the reported use of reward-based training methods and a dog’s ability to learn a novel task
...
Notably, we found that the higher the proportion of aversive stimuli used in training, the greater the impact on the welfare of dogs (both within and outside the training context). This result is in line with the findings of a previous survey study, which showed that a higher frequency of punishment was correlated with higher anxiety and fear scores [8]. Still, in the present study, welfare differences were found even when comparing Groups Reward and Mixed, which used a lower proportion of intended aversive-based techniques as compared to Group Aversive. Dogs from Group Mixed showed higher frequencies of stress-related behaviors, were found more frequently in tense states and panted more frequently during training
..
Overall, our results show that companion dogs trained with aversive-based methods experienced poorer welfare during training sessions than dogs trained with reward-based methods. Additionally, dogs trained with higher proportions of aversive-based methods experienced poorer welfare outside the training context than dogs trained with reward-based methods. Moreover, whereas different proportions of aversive-based methods did not result in differences in dog welfare outside the training context among aversive-based schools, a higher proportion of aversive-based methods resulted in poorer welfare during training. To our knowledge, this is the first comprehensive and systematic study to evaluate and report the effects of dog training methods on companion dog welfare. Critically, our study points to the fact that the welfare of companion dogs trained with aversive-based methods is at risk, especially if these are used in high proportions.';

'>>4774564
>Remember to keep your compulsions relatively gentle and just have patience, because a lot of people who say more aggressive methods work mistake psychological damage for submissive and 'being well trained'
Positive only fags cannot explain why doggies who get a physical correction show their bellies while wagging their tail in joy. This will never end until they fade away into irrelevance because they don't have an explanation.';

'>inb4 dog daddy is choking the dog that's why the dog shows its belly
mf the dog was choking themselves when still held on leash by the owner';

'>>4774687
You do realize dogs roll over and wag their tails due to stress and fear as well right?

So let me get this straight
You abused your non-aggressive basset and aussie, because the methods worked faster on aggressive dogs, and think when they roll over they like you

Dogs CAN roll over because they want belly rubs, but they can also roll over because they want you to stop hurting them.';

'>>4774690
>You abused your non-aggressive basset and aussie, because the methods worked faster on aggressive dogs, and think when they roll over they like you
i don't have those dogs you dumb schizo';

'>>4774689
>*dangles lunging dog from leash, makes no attempt to stop it*
>the dog choked itself
>look he wants me to touch his penis he rolled over
"the dog daddy"
Essentially a thug role model for dicklets that want to play caveman beastmaster

For when you look up to the gangster on TV who punch/shoot the lower ranking criminals who ask rude questions, but don't want to go to jail';

'>punishment fag starting this argument again
Punishment is generally bad

Maybe if your dog is already fucked up, preventing injury and your dogs euthanasia is more important than the finer aspects of their well being, and you have no choice because your dog has to share a home with others or be condemned to a kill shelter.

But punishment is generally bad. They are animals. They don't know what the fuck they're doing. They don't know what the fuck you're doing. Treat them better.

"The kindest mercies of the wicked are cruel" - Jesus.';

'>>4774693
Yes believe it or not dogs are animals they have a choice not to stand on two paws';

'>>4774695
>Maybe if your dog is already fucked up, preventing injury and your dogs euthanasia is more important than the finer aspects of their well being, and you have no choice because your dog has to share a home with others or be condemned to a kill shelter.
Stressed out people with troubled dogs don't care your dog has not bitten anyone yet, they are looking for methods that work, not "feed them another hot dog"';

'>>4774696
>Dogs are super self aware all the time and actively making conscious choices
Load of horseshit to justify crushing tracheas because it looks "hard" on a thuglarp tiktok account
>For when you look up to the gangsters on TV who punch/shoot the lower ranking criminals who ask rude questions, but don't want to go to jail';

'>>4774699
>>Dogs are super self aware all the time and actively making conscious choices
Most of the time, yes, that's why they stop when they are corrected (either by another dog or by a human)
Why do you think puppies stop biting when raised by their mom?';

'>>4774698
Non sequitur.

Not all dogs are violent.
Most dogs are totally non-violent.
"Balanced" (aversive) training has the potential to cause violence
>This result is in line with the findings of a previous survey study, which showed that a higher frequency of punishment was correlated with higher anxiety and fear score
What are the top two causes of aggression in dogs?
>DOMINANCE, BEING THE ALPHA MALE, AND BEING A REAL DOG LIKE A MALIGATOR NOT SOME SISSY LAB?
No.

Anxiety and fear.';

'>>4774699
>thuglarp
Hey retard, this is a thread about dogs
Go pop some niggas in the hood to calm yourself down';

'>>4774685
>dog salivates
>must be stressed from training
Cope of a study. How about something with an actual sample size and from America, not Portugal, or something with a legitimate research framework?

Study exists =/= study is credible';

'>>4774700
>Dogs stop when they are hurt
>This means they are self aware
Yeah that's what the zoophiles say

Refer to this

>>4774685
>>4774686

And this
>>4774564

You got btfo.

>>4774703
>a source isn't from america therefore its bad!
Retard.

And your source is this ugly tiktok faggot hurting dogs until they roll over because they want to stop being harmed. Tattoos = no opinion, sorry chump.

You got btfo.';

'>>4774701
>Not all dogs are violent.
>Most dogs are totally non-violent.
All dogs exhibit "violent" behavior when socializing with other dogs and when raising their puppies. Because the standard for "violence" set by the positive only fags is a puppy nipping at something, or a dog parent sligthly touching a dog's torso, mouth or face to correct the dog.';

'>>4774685
>>ALL TRAINING METHODS HAVE TO WORK ON UNHINGED AGGRESSIVE DOGS!
>Absolutely irrational.
So if not all training methods work you should probably incorporate some other methods, something Zak George refuses to do (which is why he's a bad dog trainer)';

'>The Portuguese study again
Makes no sense to me. You Shouldn't aversively train your dog to sit; you shouldn't positively train your dog to not counter surf.';

'>>4774712
you should slightly touch their butt which is off limit for the positive only fags
also if your dog doesn't sit when near other dogs you should just keep your dog 400ft away from other dogs that will fix everything according to them';

'>>4774707
My source? Oh, you think you're talking to one person. Ok. Gotcha.

My source is experience.';

'OH MY GOD! MOMMY DOG TOUCHED THE PUP! MOMMY IS NOT POSITIVE ONLY! BAD MOMMY!';

'>>4774713
Correct. Force-free folks are plain retarded. As corroborated by their overlord “Zach George” who has an untrained reactive border collie that he purposely bought to “show its improvement” that is still spergs out after 10 years.';

'>>4774715
This dog was clearly raised by dog daddy, inhumane :P';

'>>4774708
>All dogs are "violent" because touhing is violent
>Therefore choke your dog
https://eileenanddogs.com/fallout-aversives-punishment-negative-reinforcement/
https://fydogtraining.com/training-tips/aversive-dog-training-methods-the-fallout-and-why-it-matters
https://www.dogminded.training/blog/2019/3/4/dogs-arent-the-only-ones-who-suffer-from-aversive-training
https://noelhoffmann.com/blog/the-case-against-using-aversive-training-methods/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1558787817300357

>>4774711
Although punishment may work FASTER on aggressive dogs, it should not be used on most dogs. The edge case, of a dog who has to cease aggressive behavior immediately and can not be properly trained due to other constraints, is in a whole other ball park.

>>4774712
Yes, you should use positive reinforcement to train your dog not to counter surf because punishing them
>This result is in line with the findings of a previous survey study, which showed that a higher frequency of punishment was correlated with higher anxiety and fear score
Makes them worse you stupid fucking faggot.
>it takes too long tho!
Boo hoo.
>This result is in line with the findings of a previous survey study, which showed that a higher frequency of punishment was correlated with higher anxiety and fear score

>>4774714
Your source is experience? Post your dogs. No, I won't post for you, you post
>nooo you cant even touch dogs
See you're already making shit up.

You lost, stupid fucking faggot. Cry about it.

>>4774716
Samefagging faggot retard

How many devices are you posting from right now? Or did leto give you his proxy credentials?';

'>>4774718
>>Therefore choke your dog
dogs have strong necks, they know what they are doing thats why they stop after a while after choking themselves';

'>>4774718
>Samefagging faggot retard
You are actually funny because by agitating against people who are not me you just expose yourself as a paranoid schizo.';

'>>4774718
The source: ff/lima companies who want you as a customer. Not too bright are ya? Didn't you learn that .com isn't reliable? .company';

'Is a dog barking at another dog to stop a behavior a positive punishment?';

'>>4774718
>samefagging
>Samefagging is when we're literally posting seconds from each other.
Yeah, I'm thinking schizo. Disregarded.';

'>>4774718
>Samefagging faggot retard
Making comments like this will backfire, because like the other anon said >>4774726 we know we aren't the same person lmao';

'If being physical with a dog is inhumane, then why are humans physical against each other? Isn't that also inhumane and abusive?';

'Yet another thread ruined by marcie's owner recommending animal abuse (as expected of the /bdt/ troll) and leo's owners total inability to let people be wrong

Yes, it's marcies owner. The two huskybros and leos owner don't want to say it but someone already did here by referencing how he acts in telegram
>>4773283

It's marcies owner. Every time this comes up, if the troll posts his dog it will be marcie or dalton. Haven't you noticed?

It's marcie's owner. He posted all of this exact same shit on telegram too and heathers owner and the european huskybro argued with him about it. That's why he kept bringing up heathers owner at the start of the thread. He thought it was a repeat of one of the arguments on telegram.

And yes, marcie's owner IS using a proxy. He's in the telegram with leto so he can reply seconds apart. Only heather's owner isn't there anymore because they got sick of all the zoos.

>inb4 cope
Please pay more attention to marcie and dalton and less attention to dog. You are the single worst shitposting instigator here. No, don't bother denying it. You act like this on telegram. You act like this here. You can't even bring up different abusive trainers, you're that bad at hiding it.';

'>>4774719
They stop what they're doing after you choke them because being choked hurts.
>This result is in line with the findings of a previous survey study, which showed that a higher frequency of punishment was correlated with higher anxiety and fear score
>This result is in line with the findings of a previous survey study, which showed that a higher frequency of punishment was correlated with higher anxiety and fear score
>This result is in line with the findings of a previous survey study, which showed that a higher frequency of punishment was correlated with higher anxiety and fear score

>>4774725
Are you a dog?
>>4774722
>muh domains
I see.';

'>>4774730
I knew it when he made the .com comment';

'Will marcie's owner please stop ruining /dog/ by repeating the exact same troll arguments he already had in telegram?';

'>>4774732
>They stop what they're doing after you choke them because being choked hurts.
They choke themselves*';

'>>4774734
Will you stop calling the entire thread marcie's owner?';

'Just remember
>prong collars
>pitbulls
>the dog daddy
>raw feeding
These are marcie's owners troll topics. Has anyone "posted dog" in support his these other than him? No. It's always marcie wearing the prong.';

'>>4774734
I believe it.

>>4774736
Same old fallacious reasoning';

'>>4774737
Please stop ruining /dog/ and do a better job with marcie and dalton. You're the most obvious, and worst, instigating troll here.';

'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGvqPQglME8';

'>>4774732
Repeating something does not make you less retarded';

'>>4774742
Post basset';

'>>4774743
I can't when I don't have a basset';

'>>4774730
you gottem
but he'll do it again next thread';

'>>4774738
Millions of people are associated with all of those things, retard.';

'>>4774738
Some dogs need prong collars
Pitbulls aren't naturally violent
There's nothing wrong with a man owning a dog
Raw feeding is objectively better';

'was this belgian malinois abused?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnuGALZOtus';

'Zack george: you should give this dog a treat that will fix everything
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5XzGyjEkkc';

'>He can't quit
https://noelhoffmann.com/blog/the-case-against-using-aversive-training-methods/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1558787817300357

Abuse works faster, being nice works better. Cope.

Also, post dog.';

'>>4774730
got my noggin joggin, i remember now, this is literally the exact sort of shit he posted in telegram lol no wonder he was so intent on denying it when heathers owner called him telegram basset guy';

'>>4774758
Everyone already knew. He’s the one who posts his dogs as part of these arguments and was caught shitposting before via iphone filenames. Simple as.';

'How can I get my dog to let me treat his ears with ear cleaners/drops? He has an ear infection and he needs his ear cleaned plus his medicine, but he hates taking it';

'>>4774769
Bait medicine with peanut butter
Use escalating positive reinforcement to acclimate him to ear cleaning (start with just touching)';

'>>4774776
The ear cleaner and medicine both go in his ears. How long will it take to get him used to the ear cleaning? He kinda needs it asap';

'>>4774781
Like a day maybe? Peanut butter lick mats are good for this (or just put it in a cup)';

'>>4774783
You don't think he'd leave the peanut butter to get me to stop messing with his ears? I've never introduced him to peanut butter, honestly';

'>>4774787
It’s a process
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IDLcgzFXios';

'>>4774792
Thanks';

'>>4774730
Screw you. I haven't posted anything all day.
Now look at this 750 dollar GSD sculpture I was considering purchasing today, bitch.';

'>>4774730
AND look at this INCREDIBLE great pyrenees terrarium thing. Only 2000 dollars. FUCK. They had a standard poodle one as well, but I didn't take a damn picture if it.

I do not indulge in these gay ass arguments anymore. They just ruin the thread, and go in gay little circles for all eternity.';

'>everyone is my dog
Are zoosadists this mind-broken and bored? Be productive and do something other than jerk off to fury porn.';

'>>4774807
>everyone is my schizo';

'>>4774730
>ai-generated packing tapefag admits to being from the telegram.
There were only 2 non-zoophiles in there and I refuse to believe Heather’s dad would draft a 69-page article of confederacy tier document of seethe. So, who does that make you?';

'>>4774807
nice ai generated dog';

'dog daddy status: discredited';

'>>4774822
Is dog daddy in the room with you right now?';

'>>4774823
I think Dog Daddy is the friend we made along the way, personally.';

'Thank god Trump is not wasting time on these positive only retards, he has more important business like colonizing Mars';

'>>4774796
This is not a GSD. It's probably a rough collie/husky mix.';

'My dog has hip dysplasia in both hips. Even I could tell the X-rays were bad. Vet mentioned damage to his ACL and knees too. She immediately said surgery. Total hip replacement and femoral head ostectomy were the choices. Does anyone have any experience with these?

My dog is a very active dog. We go for many hikes in the grasslands when the snow is gone. Every day we walk the town for at least an hour. We play fetch inside daily. Even after collapsing yesterday he stared at me with a ball in his mouth and tore up the house when I refused to play. He can't sit still. 93lbs of pure muscle. He's been eating science diet and glucosamine pills since I got him. Wasn't enough.';

'>>4774861
Neutering+genetics, sorry bro

Those surgeries are really rough and injury during recovery is likely. Hope he doesn't end up wheelchaired.';

'>>4774859
Shut your whore mouth. Do you like the sculpture at least?';

'>>4774861
He only had one nut so I neutered him when he was able to be. He would struggle resting during recovery, so he will get injured more likely than not.';

'>>4774863
>Neutering+genetics
Stop trolling';

'>>4774869
At least it has stable hips?';

'>>4774872
>>4774863
shite';

'>>4774875
My sister had one of these mutts. She dressed it up for Halloween, I saw it looking and I knew. You can only put it in a bit or else it starts to growl and snap.';

'>>4774873
Both of those do cause hip dysplasia';

'>>4774876
>You can only put it in a bit or else it starts to growl and snap.
Don't stick you dick in a dog and it won't bite you, Kero.

>>4774879
Fairly sure he just has bad genetics. His parents were of good health, but several of the litter had various issues.';

'>checks thread
Honestly, I just miss my dog.';

'>>4774881
damn look at that black coat, its pure jet black';

'>>4774884
:(';

'>>4772927
>AVOID: dog harnesses

Why?';

'I love chihuahuas, simple as.';

'>>4774916
troll op made by a telegramfag';

'>>4774920
My chi was 13 years old when he got mauled to death by a shitbull.

Kill all shitbulls and hang their owners from the highest tree. And leave them up there as a warning.';

'Personally, I think an entire thread filled woth images like this would be better.

MAYBE THAT'S JUST ME THO!';

'>>4774916
when my dog was like 6 months old I put a harness on him for like a week and he immediately started pulling so I never used it again.';

'>>4774707
dafuq is that nigga wearing. yo this nigga wearing osh gosh b'sosh for adults';

'>>4774962
Skill issue. Well trained dogs walk loose leash with a harness and never need special collars.';

'>>4774969
okay faggot. my dog walked loose leash for two months before that week I tried using a harness, and for two fucking years to this day after that week. you put on a queer fucking harness. I'll just hook a leash in 2 seconds.';

'>>4774969
My dog is a badly trained maladjusted shelter dog';

'>>4774549
not mine…';

'Feels like the same arguments are always had in here';

'Next thread:
>>4775013
>>4775013
>>4775013';

'>>4775008
Why not? Are you obsessed with purebred dogs?';

'>>4774796
>>4774798
that seems pretty steep. it's one thing if that $750 statue is an antique, but the $2000 figure under the glass seems recent to me. not sure where that 2000 bucks come to be reasonable';

'>>4775105
I think they're from famous makers or actual "artists" instead of 50 indian guys pumping them out by the hundreds.

That gsd sculpture is also cast brass I think and hand painted.';

'>>4775056
No? Just had a shitty day';

'>>4772927
Does anyone have that one video where a cat rubbs itself against a Shiba Inu?';